measuring different things


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Posted by rpcman on September 02, 1998 at 10:42:53:

In Reply to: More survey data on academic religiousity. posted by Garett on September 01, 1998 at 19:03:32:

: Is Religious Attends Regularly Opposes religion

This is a completely different survey with predictably different results than the one Chris mentions. Unless "religion" is defined, this survey is almost meaningless. Take my answers for instance. They would be Yes, Yes, No. To Chris's questions of "Do you believe in a personal God?" and "Do you believe in human immortality?" my answers would be No and No.

Although Stark believes a "correlation between educational attainment and most measures of religiosity is positive", the correlation between educational attainment and belief in a personal god is negative. Take the UU fellowship I attend for example. Nearly everyone has advanced degrees. Most don't believe in god(s) and those that do would be considered pantheists.

"real religion, that emotive feeling for Truth and Beauty, can flourish in the absence of an idolatrous theology." -- Adrian Desmond (from _Huxley_, p. 79)

"I believe in the religion of reason -- the gospel of this world; in the development of the mind, in the accumulation of intellectual wealth, to the end that man may free himself from superstitious fear, to the end that he may take advantage of the forces of nature to feed and clothe the world." -- Robert G. Ingersoll

"Myths are about the human struggle to deal with the great passages of time and life--birth, death, marriage, the transitions from childhood to adulthood to old age. They meet a need in the psychological or spiritual nature of humans that has absolutely nothing to do with science. To try to turn a myth into a science, or a science into a myth, is an insult to myths, an insult to religion, and an insult to science." -- Michael Shermer

"Why should not we have a poetry and philosophy of insight and not of tradition, and a religion by revelation to us, and not the history of theirs?" -- Ralph Waldo Emerson




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