Posted by Robert O'Brien on July 02, 1998 at 21:27:23:
In Reply to: Abiogenesis posted by rpcman on July 02, 1998 at 14:12:21:
: I noticed on the RfM board that someone said: The truly stupid are those persons who subscribe to abiogenesis. That asinine conjecture (championed by many of our lesser brethren in the scientific community) is a far greater fantasy than any that might exist in the theist community.
: I haven't really studied the subject much, but let's compare the theories to see which is the 'greater fantasy'.
Well, I'm here. Before we start debating our respective worldviews, I'd like to comment on the rhetorical style I've been using on the other BB. I call it the Jonathan Edwards approach to rhetoric (i.e., I'm right, you're wrong, and you are going to hell for it). Now, I'm usually not all that disagreeable (especially in person). The invective I've been distributing in abundance on the ex-mo BB has been in response to offensive and/or ignorant remarks directed at myself or my theist brethren. The reason I bring this up is because I am willing to be civil, courteous and respectful to those here if they are willing to act in a like manner to me and my co-religionists (I use the term lightly, because I no longer subscribe to a particular religion). Now, if someone here starts throwing punches, don't expect me to roll over and play dead because I have an agreement with the rest. This is not a collective bargain, though, so if someone starts slinging mudballs, that does not mean that I'll drop the courtesy with everyone else. So, do we have a deal? Once I hear from you (either way) then we can begin (I need to know whether or not I'll be needing my cudgel and quiver, after all).
Robert O'Brien
P.S. It looks like my beliefs are closest to Behe's (out of the ones you provided). I do have a slight inclination towards deism, though. Anyway, I just thought I'd give you a "preview" of my beliefs.
: Behe Theism: Man (and everything else more complicated than say RNA) is created by evolution. An intelligent designer created these "irreducibly complex" items out of thin air or by some other supernatural means. This supernatural being's origin is still not explained. It is probably safe to say that this incredibly powerful and complex deity came into being from nothing at all.
: Deism: A supernatural being creates the universe. It is probably safe to say that this incredibly powerful and complex deity came into being from nothing at all.
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