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Posted by: his_dudeness ( )
Date: July 04, 2011 03:02PM

Was Betty Eadie a mormon? If so what did LDS leadrship think of her? My TBM wife is a fan of her book.

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Posted by: Just Browsing ( )
Date: July 04, 2011 04:21PM

Yes Betty claimed mormonism --however her doctrine really upset the leadership... Her downfall was when she had a meeting in Bountiful and a few thousand turned up to hear her speak, when only a few weeks earlier they could not get that anywhere near that number for a special fireside meeting featuring a member of the First Quorum of Seventy (GA).

She quickly got out of her league according to the Church when she captivated the interest of local members. Books removed from Deseret Book - Thus membership believed Betty was **NOT ON THE APPROVED LIST** "Embraced by the Light" was dumped by members and started turning up in significant numbers at Deseret Industries

A shooting star with small explosion and an extremely quick flame out

JB

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Posted by: his_dudeness ( )
Date: July 04, 2011 04:31PM

Was sge excommunicated or disfellowshipped?

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Posted by: his_dudeness ( )
Date: July 04, 2011 05:13PM

My wife refuses to believe that the LDS Church leaders didnt embrace Eadie. Do you have any refs?

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Posted by: shannon ( )
Date: December 22, 2012 06:01PM

My MIL went to that fireside. She said the crowds quickly ran out of parking spaces. So drivers fanned out and started parking haphazardly all along the sides of the surrounding streets. Late to Eadie's presentation, people would JUMP out of their vehicles and run to the meetinghouse. Crowds of people!

I'm quite sure the brethren didn't take kindly to her budding cult-like status.

Personally I loved the book, "Embraced by the Light." A group of my best girlfriends from the ward and I took an overnight bus trip to the Atlanta Temple from our home in Florida (called it the Red Eye Special). Someone smuggled in advance copies of select chapters of the eadie book. I have no clue how that happened - it was a "spirchul mercle." So we read, and discussed, and bore our testimonies the whole trip.

I felt at the time that Eadie's trip beyond the veil validated Mormon doctrine. Like greyfort, it kept me in the church a whole lot longer. The second book really goes back to her Native American roots and ancient spritual beliefs. It's religious philosophies veer sharply from her earlier writings. Both books are a permanent part of my library.

I think Eadie was sincere in what she wrote years ago. I, for one, give her total permission to exlpore and grow spiritually. She's allowed to change her mind. We all are.

;o)



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/22/2012 06:13PM by shannon.

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Posted by: brefots ( )
Date: July 04, 2011 04:42PM

http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/cri/cri-jrnl/web/crj0171a.html

Don't know what she is now, she's very quiet about it for some reason.

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Posted by: imalive ( )
Date: July 04, 2011 11:28PM

I'd like to know how whe's doing.

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Posted by: Someone who knows ( )
Date: December 22, 2012 04:47PM

Betty is doing wonderfully. Her issues with the LDS church is between herself, them and the Lord.

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Posted by: Homeless ( )
Date: January 07, 2013 11:52PM

(Atheists...don't read this, please. Don't want to argue.)

Boy, does this bring back memories. I was a TBM at the time. Bought the first book and lapped it up. Bought the second book and put up warning signs and skeptism, since I had left the LDS Church, and she put herself and experience over the Bible. Then I met a man soon afterwards who died and went to heaven too--I talked to him face to face. He didn't go through any dark tunnel. He said that's "the other guy" pretending to be Jesus.

Think about it, going through a dark tunnel to get to the light...huh? Then I changed my mind about her experience. Sorry to be the bad guy here. No offense intended.

I believe that her little interview with the 12 men and "Jesus" that was **removed** from her memory would reveal the "real" reason she was sent back, but it is hidden from her. I wrote her years ago, but she didn't believe me. She really doesn't know why she came back. They took that away from her memory--why?

That was then.

Now I've thrown out all face to face heavenly experiences as not from the God that appeared to Moses, for that God said He would only speak to man in parables, dreams, and cryptic dark sayings after Moses...to confuse man for rejecting him on the Mountain and picking Moses instead. So, whoever Betty spoke to is not who spoke with Moses, in my opinion. Food for thought.

I look back over the years, and I'm amazed as how I've transitioned from concept to concept...to think today I've stated publicaly God is on the atheist's side!

Homeless I am.

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Posted by: Greyfort ( )
Date: July 05, 2011 12:04AM

For one thing, in her first book, she kept to mostly LDS doctrines. In fact, her book at one time kept me in the Church and brought me back from a period of inactivity, because to me, her experience validated Mormonism. At the time, I didn't know she'd become a Mormon. I didn't know that until I met a sister missionary who'd met her. In her first book, she'd mentioned that there was one gospel, but few people find it. When she found the Mormon Church, she knew that was it.

One thing which I imagine freaked out the LDS leadership was her descriptions about reincarnation. In her first book, she explained how people had cellular memory and that's why they thought they'd experienced reincarnation, when it was really only cellular memory from your ancestors. Something like that. But that part is okay.

In her second book though (yes, I have both), she suddenly contradicted that and said that there were indeed some people who chose to come back and be reincarnated. She talked about the rather strange way she received the words for the second book. I seem to remember something about her seeing the words to write on her ceiling. It's been years since I read them.

Anyway, the second book very much steered away from Mormon Doctrine. I imagine that freaked out the Mormon leadership quite a bit.

At the time I read both books, I was still TBM. The second book freaked me out, because it got weird, and I was like, "Whoa! Some bad spirit's gotten a hold of her here, because she's gone way out into left field now."

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Posted by: PapaKen ( )
Date: December 22, 2012 04:56PM

I got a lot out of reading her book. And of saying her name.

I have a relative named Mee-Mee Bee-tee (spelling changed, but that's how you say it). I always wanted to introduce the two:

Mee-Mee Bee-tee, meet Bett-ee Eed-ee.

(say THAT 10 time fast!)

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Posted by: Glo ( )
Date: December 23, 2012 12:37AM

As I recall, in her second book she mentioned a gay friend and how she felt his life also had value.

She also said there is a fulless of the gospel but few people find it this life - nothing about Mormonism being "it".

Undoubtedly, her books made church leaders extremely uncomfortable.

Certain Mormon males also questioned why a woman would have such an experience when she did not hold "the priesthood".

There was also a book floating around, titled "Embarrassed by the Light" in which a Mormon attacked her on those grounds.
No surprise there.

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Posted by: Greyfort ( )
Date: December 23, 2012 12:49AM

Not to mention that in her first book, she described reincarnation as simply cellular memory, where memories of your ancestors were recorded in your very DNA and you could tap into that.

In her second book, she declared that some people do reincarnate. I was still TBM at the time and I went, "Huh?!" I wondered what made her go off her rocker in her second book.

I did meet a sister missionary who was in her ward.

Edit: Oh, this is an old thread. I already said that. LOL



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/23/2012 12:52AM by Greyfort.

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Posted by: Greyfort ( )
Date: January 07, 2013 11:48PM

This one keeps coming back. LOL Betty may well have had a profound experience and she no doubt believes what she teaches.

But the problem is that there are other people who've had the same sort of experience, who have been told that it doesn't matter what religion you follow, such as in Mellen-Thomas Benedict's experience.

One lady I've corresponded with, Nanci Danison, is a health lawyer. In her NDE, she was shown a documentary of the history of religion. She said that if such a man as Jesus ever existed, he didn't show up in her viewing of the documentary. If he did exist, he didn't make much of an impact on history. She has a book called Backwards and one called Backwards Belief.

How does one reconcile the conflicting "information" that these people supposedly bring back, if the experiences are real?

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Posted by: Homeless ( )
Date: January 08, 2013 12:01AM

The answer may be this: None of them are talking to the same One who spoke to Moses...see my post to Someone Who Knows...

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Posted by: ducky333 ( )
Date: January 08, 2013 12:08AM

I read Edie's book, thought it fascinating. The science v visionary argument is not worth getting into. And I don't know her, so can't comment, but have read of many like experiences, and their resultant by-products. Visions like these have gone on since the concept of heaven was in its infancy (bad pun). I would imagine the church didn't want her to have too much power or influence, because it would then lessen theirs.

Like this article on a similar book I read about last year:

"My Son Went to Heaven, and All I Got Was a No. 1 Best Seller." Maud Newton's book is called Heaven is for Real. A big bestseller.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/magazine/my-son-went-to-heaven-and-all-i-got-was-a-no-1-best-seller.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

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Posted by: Homeless ( )
Date: January 08, 2013 12:22AM

I believe Betty Eddie had a genuine experience.

But link to Colton's story, the little kids that went to heaven, is a definite scam from his dad and mom. Someone gave me the book for Christmas, and I read it. Then I started looking at the interviews online on youtube, and I was shocked when the stories in front of the camera didn't match the book, clearly a scam. It will be sad in 10 or 20 years when this boy grows up and confesses to what he was forced to do. Atheists can have a hey day on this one, by the way, if they want to expose it for what it is. It didn't take long to find the huge inconsistencies from what the boy says in person to what is written the book.

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Posted by: Greyfort ( )
Date: January 08, 2013 12:11AM

Here's Betty's husband, Joe, speaking (I believe he's now deceased):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjXXf7ZcFmg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0iCUhI3heU

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