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Posted by: Odell Campbell ( )
Date: December 20, 2013 05:48PM

I am curious as to whether Judge Shelby, the US District Judge who today authored an opinion finding Utah's anti-gay marriage unconstitutional, is Mormon.

Does anyone know?

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Posted by: MJ ( )
Date: December 20, 2013 05:53PM

Nothing definitive from Wiki

Born March 13, 1970 (age 43)
Fort Atkinson, Wisconsin, U.S.
Alma mater Utah State University, Logan
University of Virginia

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Posted by: QWE ( )
Date: December 20, 2013 05:53PM

I'm not sure. I'd be interested to know though.

However, it shouldn't matter anyway. They're probably not supposed to take their religious beliefs into account when making decisions like this.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: December 20, 2013 06:51PM

FWIW, he served in the Utah National Guard from ages 18-26 and served as a combat engineer in Operation Desert Storm (he would have been roughly age 20-21 at the time.)

http://judgepedia.org/Robert_Shelby



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/20/2013 06:54PM by summer.

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Posted by: forbiddencokedrinker ( )
Date: December 21, 2013 10:45AM

So not a TBM, since they bravely run off on missions whenever their country is at war.

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Posted by: Rusty Shackleford ( )
Date: December 21, 2013 02:54PM

Some young LDS men join the ARNG at 17 or 18 under a 6x2 contract and invoke their inactivity period for the purposes of serving a mission.

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Posted by: jiminycricket ( )
Date: December 20, 2013 06:55PM

Is a US District Judge an appointed for life position or an elected position?

If appointed, who nominated him?

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Posted by: flyboy ( )
Date: December 21, 2013 04:13AM

Appointed for life by Obama.



jiminycricket Wrote:
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> Is a US District Judge an appointed for life
> position or an elected position?
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> If appointed, who nominated him?

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Posted by: soju ( )
Date: December 20, 2013 06:59PM

from wikipedia:

"On November 30, 2011, President Obama nominated Robert J. Shelby to be District Judge for the United States District Court for the District of Utah."

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Posted by: jiminycricket ( )
Date: December 20, 2013 07:01PM

Thanks for the answer. That most assuredly means its a life-time position.

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Posted by: fakemoroni ( )
Date: December 21, 2013 10:55AM

Affirmed by voice vote by Utah's Republican Senators Orrin Hatch and Mike Lee.

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Posted by: a nonny mouse ( )
Date: December 22, 2013 12:36PM

Schadenfreude "like"!

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: December 20, 2013 07:25PM

Here are Judge Shelby's responses to senators when he was nominated to the federal bench:

http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/nominations/112thCongressJudicialNominations/upload/RobertShelby-QFRs.pdf

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Posted by: Odell Campbell ( )
Date: December 20, 2013 07:52PM

As an Article III judge, Judge Shelby received a lifetime appointment. I wonder if the case was given to Judge Shelby because he was not LDS (if such is the case). The other LDS judges may have viewed Judge Shelby as safe from church pressure or criticism if he was not Mormon.

Just curious.

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Posted by: MJ ( )
Date: December 21, 2013 01:04AM

My curiosity was, if he is Mormon, would there be any repercussions from TSCC, public or otherwise.

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Posted by: Philbbq ( )
Date: December 21, 2013 12:41AM

That's one angle.

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Posted by: Blah ( )
Date: December 21, 2013 02:40AM

The cases are given to Judges randomly. They don't decide. And I can assure you there is no attempt at church influence in the federal court. I clerked there.

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Posted by: sonoma ( )
Date: December 21, 2013 03:11AM

No attempt at church influence in the federal court? That's absurd. The Mormon cult lobbies in legal and extralegal ways.

Evidence? 10% of the US Senate, which until recently had filibustered the majority of the Administrations appointments, is Mormon.

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Posted by: Odell Campbell ( )
Date: December 21, 2013 12:12PM

But I have also seen sensitive cases conveniently given to "safe" judges in the district where I practice.

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Posted by: isthisnameok? ( )
Date: December 21, 2013 06:11AM

This is an interesting case. What if he is Mo, the bishop hauls him into his office sundee' and sez "DUDE WTF?" And Brother Shelby sez "hey bish, just doing my job, I can't just arbitrarily make up bs in the face of the constitution of the United States, you know, the same constitution you and many of our members are always blathering about being hung by a thread? Well..."

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Posted by: steve benson ( )
Date: December 21, 2013 06:17AM


Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 12/21/2013 06:18AM by steve benson.

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Posted by: forbiddencokedrinker ( )
Date: December 21, 2013 10:47AM

Is that serious?

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Posted by: fakemoroni ( )
Date: December 21, 2013 10:57AM

Odd that Senators Mike Lee and Orrin Hatch did not discern that before their affirmation vote in the Senate.

"On November 30, 2011, President Obama nominated Robert J. Shelby to be District Judge for the United States District Court for the District of Utah.[3] He would replace Judge Tena Campbell who took senior status in 2011. He received a hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee on March 28, 2012 and his nomination was reported to the floor on April 26, 2012, by voice vote.[4] Both Senators from Utah, Orrin Hatch and Mike Lee, endorsed his nomination[5]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_J._Shelby



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Posted by: imaworkinonit ( )
Date: December 21, 2013 04:02PM

All he would have to do is leak it to the media and it would be a PR nightmare. I think they are smart enough not to do that. But you never know.

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Posted by: Washed and disappointed -nli ( )
Date: December 22, 2013 10:45AM

I went to high school with his wife...I kind had a crush on her. She was very LDS back then. I'll ask a mutual friend if the judge is lDS.

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Posted by: BG ( )
Date: December 22, 2013 11:36AM

Came from Wisconsin, Skyview grad in Utah. USU. Convert, but now Exmo.

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Posted by: thingsithink ( )
Date: December 22, 2013 11:40AM

Ex-mormon? Beautiful.

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Posted by: 3X (NLI) ( )
Date: December 22, 2013 12:24PM

But is he an exmo with papers? IE, if he didn't resign, he's still a member in the eyes of the church.


Now wouldn't that be just hilarious ...

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Posted by: Glo ( )
Date: December 22, 2013 03:07PM

Did he bail from the cult before or after he was appointed?

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Posted by: Washed & dissed ( )
Date: December 22, 2013 02:29PM

He's not LDS, according to common friend

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Posted by: Odell Campbell ( )
Date: December 22, 2013 02:58PM


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Posted by: Glo ( )
Date: December 22, 2013 03:06PM

Hilarious.

Wanna bet the morg thought they had this judge's vote in anything concerning Mormonism ?

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