Every time there is a natural disaster, my dad will talk about how its a sign of the times and all that.
Sometmes it actually sends a little shiver of fear through my heart, util i realize thats what its meant to do : p
Thoughts? Are we all gonna burn together next year in the second coming or what? Lol

My mom'sbeen saying it since I was 10 years old.......I'm 47.

48 here.....and between global cooling and the end of the world teachings in the 70's its amazing I didn't put the cold steele in my mouth. Society is full of whackos.

Any TBMs openly saying that the Second Coming will soon happen are guilty of apostasy, since they are speaking in direct opposition to a modern Apostle of the Lord. Those apostate ex-TBMs should be immediately hauled into the bishop's or SP's office for courts of love and excommunication unless they humble themselves mightily and repent.

Boyd K. Packer, October 2011 GC:
"Sometimes you might be tempted to think as I did from time to time in my youth: 'The way things are going, the world's going to be over with. The end of the world is going to come before I get to where I should be.' Not so! You can look forward to doing it right - getting married, having a family, seeing your children and grandchildren, maybe even great-grandchildren."

I recall Hinckley saying that he thought the Second Coming wouldn't occur either in his lifetime or that of his children, and maybe even his grandchildren. Can't seem to find the exact reference though. (I tend to think that he actually spoke as a prophet on that one.)

or even his great great children. Or maybe their children. Posibly their children's children. doesn't sound like he nailed this one down very well. seems kind of vague but maybe that is only me.

How things have changed!

My friends and I were all told in our patriarchal blessings in the 70's that we would be around for the 2nd coming.

durhamlass Wrote:
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> How things have changed!
>
> My friends and I were all told in our patriarchal
> blessings in the 70's that we would be around for
> the 2nd coming.


As was I, in 1976. Now I'm 54, still no second coming.
Awww..

One of my childhood mormon friends moved to Southern Utah (we grew up in SoCal), and became a full-on survivalist/anti-commmie/end of the world nutcase. It's the norm there, from what I understand. Very sad.

Um ya. Especially today. Here in AZ we had an epic storm. More rain fell today than it has in 100 years. Oh boy, that really brought the last days talk out of my TBM MIL.

my mormon bishop FIL was afraid of big, round numbers.

He was frightened by the year 2000.

These are always funny to me, that people think "round" numbers are significant.

We use a base 10 system. Why? Probably because most of us have 10 fingers. If we used some other base, mathematics would make just as much sense.

So 2,000 is only a "round" number by definition.

It's more than just the tbm's going off. The bible bangers are too.

Hey the sky has been falling for 6000 years!

We had an excellent academic speaker come to my current church to speak about the apocalypse and things of that nature; his point was there has always been "war and threats of war", earthquakes, etc. He challenged those in attendance to name a time in the last 2000 years when there was not. We tend to be more fearful of the current wars and threats because we don't know where they are leading, while minimizing the fears that were felt in the past because we know how it worked out (maybe us in the US would feel differently if we lived in the war zones of the past 100 yrs).

jerry64 Wrote:
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> We had an excellent academic speaker come to my
> current church to speak about the apocalypse and
> things of that nature; his point was there has
> always been "war and threats of war", earthquakes,
> etc. He challenged those in attendance to name a
> time in the last 2000 years when there was not.
> We tend to be more fearful of the current wars and
> threats because we don't know where they are
> leading, while minimizing the fears that were felt
> in the past because we know how it worked out
> (maybe us in the US would feel differently if we
> lived in the war zones of the past 100 yrs).

The thing is that when those words were spoken, it was a time of peace -- Pax Romana. So basically, the bible was saying that when the Roman peace ends, that is the end times.

Jesus told us so many times - the time is NOW, the time is AT HAND, there are some who are standing here, this generation shall not pass. So either Jesus was a nutcase or there's a different explanation. One explanation is the preterist point of view - that it happened in 70 AD when Rome sacked Jerusalem, killed nearly everyone and kicked mostly everyone else out.

They were considered The Beast at that time to the audience of the writings of the Apocalyptic texts.

Because of the persecution of Christians until that was ended by Constantine the Great (313), Roman rule, including "Pax Romana" was not very peaceful for Christians.



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The safe "prophesy" is that things will get worse. Everyone always thinks things are getting worse, so they'll believe it.

The risky prophesy would be that things will get better and better until some day in the near future the world is good enough for the deity of your choice to come down. It's also harder, because it requires believers to make the world better instead of just sitting back and watching it rot.

The Plague, the "Mongol Hoards", the Inquisition, volcanoes (Vesuvius, Krakatoa, Mt. Pinatubo), Hiroshima & Nagasaki, Earthquakes & tsunamis (1906 or 1989 SF, New Madrid, Madrid, Haiti, Tokyo, Sumatra, Lisbon), The Fall of Rome, The Holocaust, Stalin, Pol Pot, The Great Leap Forward, Genghis Khan, Tunguska, 1918 Influenza Pandemic, 9-11, porn, 'My Mother The Car', Nicki Minaj,

and we're still here......

I remember hearing about the mayan calendar ending back in the 70s as well. This was in sunday school. And the year 2000 evoked fear and trembling. I think people like to think they are living in the end times because it makes them feel special.

Two TBM's I know who make this their life time occupation also are know to have visions and countless medicinal suggestions.

I have always thought both of them felt slighted because they were not born prophetess's.

When around them, which I do try to avoid, I wish I had recorded what they spouted the last time so that I could replay it for them and save them their breath.



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“And the lion will lie down with the lamb, but the lamb won’t get much sleep…”

~ Woody Allen


"Stantz: Fire and brimstone coming down from the sky! Rivers and seas boiling!

Spengler: Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes!

Winston Zeddemore: The dead rising from the grave!

Venkman: Human sacrifice! Dogs and cats, living together! Mass hysteria!"

-"Ghostbusters"

One of my missionary companions (England Leeds Mission 85-86) was told in her Patriarchal Blessing that she would still be alive at the time of the second coming, that she literally would not die before it happened.

I often wonder what her husband and children will think when she dies and the second coming won't have happened.

Don't forget miniskirts and the Beatles. Absolute proof of the end of the world.

On a more serious note, I can tell you exactly when the world will end. It will end when you ask the Fisher King how he got his wound.

I can elaborate. But that event is what all those End Times predictions are really all about. Don't you just wish there were a religion that saw it as their prime responsibility to help you understand and arrive at that state? Like maybe a real religion, rather than all these counterfeits?

My son's good friend was on a mission and wrote an email to everyone calling them to repentance because the end times were nigh.

My son wrote back that at age 22 he had already lived through Y2K and at least six end-of-the-world predictions, guess I'll live through this one too. And he did.

Sounds like my 7th day adventist relatives. It would scare the bejesus out if me as a kid. But nothing happened. Not even y2k. I grew up reading about the whore of babylon and really scary beasts and the moon turning to blood.

The end is near, so be good & pay your tithing.

The end is NOT near, so be good and pay your tithing.

If a flood or an earthquake or a war or a famine or a volcano erupting or ......is a sign of the times, then Christ's second coming has been 'just around the corner' since long before Christ was here first time around.



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