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Posted by: AngelCowgirl ( )
Date: February 18, 2014 01:32PM

A TBM just posted this and it is taking all my willpower to not respond... and all the other TBMs are gushing over "how true!" it is (Warning - probable facepalm triggers, lol):

"We hear much in our day of threats to the planet--the deteriorating ozone layer, the disappearing rain forests, the threat of global warming. We see poverty in diverse places. There is in many places economic angst in the midst of global recession.
Yet the greatest threat to our world is not the rise of carbon dioxide emissions but the increased fragmentation of families. The greatest deprivation visited upon children is not just when they go hungry for food but when they are starved of affection, when there is a famine of love, security, protection and care. The greatest poverty a society or nation faces is found not in reduced bank balances or in falling stock markets but in the loss of a moral compass and the abandonment of virtue. The real 'inconvenient truth' is that what was once sacred is now mocked and ridiculed, and what was once abhorred is now accepted, adopted and encouraged. . . .
If our young people want to fix the world, they must fix families. If they want to save the planet, they must save our future homes. If they want to protect the future, they must protect the moral certainties and values that make nations strong. If they want to fight for justice, they need to fight for children, for their right to life and for their entitlement to 'birth within the bonds of matrimony, and to be reared by a father and a mother who honor marital vows with complete fidelity.'"
~ David S. Baxter [A Perfect Brightness of Hope (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Company, 2012), 96-97]

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Posted by: blueorchid ( )
Date: February 18, 2014 01:37PM

I would respond. Until the Mormon's stop kicking the gay kids out in record numbers, this TBM should shut up with the hollow hypocritical diatribe.

Until the Mormon moms can get through the day without an anti-depressant, this TBM should shut up with her holier than thou rant.

Until kids can express their own individuality or a spouse can choose another believe system, without the church pushing the family to break-up, then this TBM should shut up with her arrogance.

I am really tired of these "not so subtle" jabs at SSM. Pretending to take the high road hoping no one notices the big blob of bigotry stuck to their heel like soiled toilet paper.

Look for the mote in your own eyes Brothers and Sisters.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/18/2014 01:41PM by blueorchid.

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Posted by: BoMSkeptic ( )
Date: February 18, 2014 01:40PM

+1

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Posted by: lostinva ( )
Date: February 18, 2014 02:00PM

+1

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Posted by: CL2 ( )
Date: February 18, 2014 02:12PM


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Posted by: Becca ( )
Date: February 18, 2014 02:23PM

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Posted by: Paidinfull ( )
Date: February 18, 2014 03:37PM

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Posted by: Devoted Exmo ( )
Date: February 18, 2014 01:40PM

Oh brother! The stupid burns badly.

No one, and I do mean no one mocks and ridicules caring for children, moral compasses and virtue.

The greatest threat to families is economics. When both parents HAVE to work to make ends meet, that's a threat to family stability.

Money issues and abuse are nearly always cited as the number one reason for divorce. Matrimony didn't change a thing and fidelity didn't have anything to do with it.

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Posted by: lostinva ( )
Date: February 18, 2014 02:22PM

Great point. Imagine if the Mormons said "the greatest threat to the family is the destruction of the middle class". Never going to hear that out of them, nope.

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Posted by: ConcernedCitizen ( )
Date: February 18, 2014 01:44PM

...........Regis Philbin.

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Posted by: Stray Mutt ( )
Date: February 18, 2014 01:49PM

Up until the post-WWII era, most people lived in multi-generational households -- out of necessity. It was very expensive to buy your own home. But with the loosening of mortgage lending and the resulting housing boom, young couples could have their own homes. Given the CHOICE, they went for having their own place. It was like they couldn't get away from their relatives fast enough. Would current preachy Mormons be eager to have multi-generational homes again, in the name of defragmenting families? Mmmmm, not many.

Well, given the CHOICE, a lot of people choose NOT to have the type of families Mormons and others idolize. One reason is that they grew up in intact but dysfunctional families. Family life sucked. Or was even damaging. And some people (myself, for example) shouldn't be parents or even a spouse. It's better for for society if we DON'T try making traditional families.

But Mormons tend to be the type of people who believe everyone MUST want and revere what Mormons want and revere. Whether they actually like it or not. "THAT'S what's wrong with the world! Not enough people are just like me!"

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Posted by: AngelCowgirl ( )
Date: February 18, 2014 01:53PM

Another thing is that even TBMs who have seen the world's problems still cling to this bull. A relative who served a mission in a very, very poor "third world" country tells stories about how the people had no time or energy for religion because they were too busy trying to figure out where their next meal would come from or how to get medicine for their baby who was dying from illness. You would think that would open his eyes, right? Nope - he simply believes that it was right to continue selling religion and telling these people that it would solve their problems. Ugh!!

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Posted by: zenmaster ( )
Date: February 18, 2014 01:59PM

Do they think that if the family thing is taken care of all the rest of the world's problems will take care of themselves?

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Posted by: Itzpapalotl ( )
Date: February 18, 2014 02:04PM

What a willfully ignorant and cavalier attitude to possess. People like Baxter are what is wrong with the world.

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Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: February 18, 2014 02:04PM

Ooh! I know this! It's Kansas, isn't it?

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Posted by: HangarXVIII ( )
Date: February 18, 2014 02:04PM

Porn.

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Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: February 18, 2014 02:05PM

Like Mormons have ever fought for children and families. This is a total failure of Mormonism.

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Posted by: lostinva ( )
Date: February 18, 2014 02:08PM

No, the "nuclear family" WAS the greatest threat to society, and Mormons show their modern mentality by continuing to push the huge failure known as the "nuclear family". It isolated us socially and caused people not to stick together so societal problems multiplied. At one time, multiple generations stuck together and had each other's back. Multiple generations even shared the same house together. While not ideal from a privacy standpoint, people have become increasingly neurotic, homelessness has increased and antisocial behavior is becoming common. 100 years ago, a single man or woman would not sit alone every night in an apartment with nobody to talk to, and nobody was expected just to "move out, marry and make a living" just because they turned 18. Only at a certain time in history was there enough work to go around for anybody to do that.

Also, my animosity towards the Mormon church increases every day as I see that every single WORD they say has an undertone that the only REAL problem with society is gays and sex. It is just too easy to blame everything wrong in society on a group of people that are wired differently and can't change it just because their 2000 year old book tells them they can. Since Mormons have NO evidence that they can change a gay person to straight, the easier thing to do is to undermine and remove gays to keep their church valid. At least Catholics get the message. There are bigger fish to fry in the world today than who is doing who. Obsession with sex has turned much of modern religion into a witch hunt with a definite reduced focus on charity and good will to mankind.

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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: February 18, 2014 05:47PM

The nuclear unit is a relatively new model for families. It is not good at all. Part of it involves throwing eighteen-year-olds to the curb and putting the elderly in "homes." Not surprisingly, the nuclear family model is decaying.

For most of our history, humans have lived in groups of multiple generation families. We will likely return to that soon. Many Mormons seem to fear any change, even if it's for the good. They are a very status quo obsessed people.

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Posted by: finalfrontier ( )
Date: February 18, 2014 02:46PM

The inconvenient truth is that the universe doesn't know about us, it doesn't care about us, and nothing we do has any effect on it.

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Posted by: notnewatthisanymore ( )
Date: February 18, 2014 03:23PM

For some reason Mormons can't get over this. Why do they think the biggest threat to humanity is what some other guy does with his penis? They don't even care about what women do with their vaginas, they try and pretend that both lesbians and female masturbation don't exist. They only seem to care about where penises are or aren't going, as if it will single handedly (dickedly?) end civilization.

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Posted by: steve benson ( )
Date: February 18, 2014 03:38PM


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Posted by: frankie ( )
Date: February 18, 2014 06:25PM

I think most TBMs believe the greatest threat to the planet is tank tops. As a happy valley TBM woman bought $565 worth of shirts that were on display at the PACSUN store in orem. Maybe she is just jelouse because she is too fat to wear them, I don't know, she thought it was porn.

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Posted by: jbug ( )
Date: February 18, 2014 06:51PM

I am SO TIRED of Mormons and their "church" holding themselves up as SUCH GOOD FAMILIES and the ANSWER TO ALL PROBLEMS. Their cult tears families apart in dozens of different ways. I want to barf after reading this.

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