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Posted by: anonymous beauty ( )
Date: June 16, 2018 08:18PM

When I was still going to church, Every single person in the church ( this was a huge ward) was a distributor for Doterra. does the church own doterra? Is the doterra company Mormon like the Marriots?

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Posted by: PHIL ( )
Date: June 16, 2018 08:59PM

Its just another MLM that mormons are susceptible to. A legalized pyramid game. Get in early make a bundle get out and let others get stuck trying to dump the product.

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Posted by: SL Cabbie ( )
Date: June 16, 2018 09:00PM


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Posted by: SL Cabbie ( )
Date: June 16, 2018 08:59PM

Besides Doterra, there's "Nuterra" (almost identical), and a whole host of others. AFter 20 years behind the wheel, I won't pretend to try to remember all of the sales pitches I've heard. Mormons don't have a market on these practices, but many of the principals in these operations are LDS.

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Posted by: doyle18 ( )
Date: June 16, 2018 11:03PM

Mormons are one group that is susceptible to MLM schemes like Doterra through the idea that if they're faithful, they'll be rich, plus women are discouraged from working outside the home. As a result, things like Doterra and LaLuRoe, another MLM scam appeal to Mormon housewives.

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Posted by: bluebutterfly ( )
Date: June 17, 2018 01:58AM

My TBM mother peddles doTerra and I do believe I've heard her say it's a Mormon company.

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Posted by: scmd1 ( )
Date: June 17, 2018 02:17AM

bluebutterfly Wrote:
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> My TBM mother peddles doTerra and I do believe
> I've heard her say it's a Mormon company.

It's a Mormon company in the sense that it's probably owned by Mormons, but not by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints per se.

I agree with others who have said that Mormons often operate with the mindset that if they're righteous, they will be blessed financially, and many of them see MLMs as the vehicle for acquiring the wealth to which they thus feel entitled. They also frequently apply the one-true-church mindset to other aspects of their lives. They're easily convinced that there's one true form of insurance, one true investment company, one true vitamin and nutritional supplement company, one true cleaning product company, one true way to health via essential oils, etc., etc.

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Posted by: bluebutterfly ( )
Date: June 17, 2018 01:13PM

Yes...that's what I meant.

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Posted by: kilgravmaga ( )
Date: June 17, 2018 02:40AM

Mormons are especially vulnerable to MLMs. There are several factors.
1. they are taught prosperity gospel, that if they do the right thing God will bless them. So there is some 'Magic' in their economic equations.

2. They are taught to accept hierarchy and unequal treatment as normal. SO they accept the higher ups getting a percentage of what they earn, and they themselves taking on more risk than their higher ups.

3. There are a lot of stay at home moms, that are trying stay at home to raise the kids. MLMs promise big money while still spending time with your family.

4. Utah, has made several practices that MLMs use allowable, whereas they are not in most other States.

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Posted by: olderelder ( )
Date: June 17, 2018 03:05PM

5. Mormons tend to believe in bulls!it when presented with the correct wholesome sincerity

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Posted by: safi ( )
Date: June 17, 2018 05:20AM

my mormon brother and his wife make $200,000 per year off Doterra

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Posted by: Wowza ( )
Date: June 17, 2018 10:56AM

No one is saying you CAN'T make money. Its just not likely for most people. Some salesmen can sell "ice to an eskimo" as the old saying goes.

Is that racist now?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Posted by: StillAnon ( )
Date: June 17, 2018 11:30AM

It's a provable fact that 98% of people in MLM's lose money. Unless you start one or are an initial salesperson, you're just another sucker making the top level people rich.

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Posted by: ificouldhietokolob ( )
Date: June 18, 2018 10:33AM

safi Wrote:
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> my mormon brother and his wife make $200,000 per
> year off Doterra

I'll go ahead and call BS.
Unless you can provide documentary evidence to back up your outrageous claim.

My wife has a friend who claims she makes over $100k per year playing the slots at local casinos. She's gambling obsessed, and certainly spends far too much time there. And she probably does "win" $100k per year.
But her figure doesn't take into account her losses -- she only counts her winnings. When you take away the losses, she actually loses about $60k per year. And oddly enough, those number line up perfectly with the published odds from the casinos on slot machines. How about that.

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Posted by: slskipper ( )
Date: June 17, 2018 07:30AM

Mormons are also taught from Day 1 that they are different. They are taught that they have an inside track to life, and that means making money other than the usual way, which is hard work coupled with finding out what suits you best in life. Mormons are taught that the things "The World (TM)" values- career accomplishments that don't involve money (such as achievements in the sciences or humanities) simply don't count. The only thing that counts, in Mormon eyes, is getting richer than other people, because we deserve it.

I can't count how many Priesthood lessons I had as a kid on "being successful (i.e., rich). I can't count how many lessons and talks and BYU devotionals I went to telling me that the only important thing in life was to see yourself as being successful (i.e., rich). Remember all those Sunday School lessons back in the 80s about Pursuit of Excellence (meaning amassing wealth)? And on and on. The main thing in life, according to Mormons, is to prove you are better because you know how to be rich.

Bruce McConkie referred to academic attire as "robes of an apostate Priesthood". He never referred to being filthy rich as a possible distraction from an authentic spiritual or personally meaningful life.



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Posted by: scmd1 ( )
Date: June 17, 2018 11:09AM

the father of one of my brothers-in-law is a dentist. He's had a thriving practice for decades, and at the age of 75 it would seem to be time for him to slow down a bit, but he's still practicing full-time. The issue for him is that he's invested large wads of cash in almost every crazy get-rich scheme from diamond sales to A. L. Williams to waterfront property, and he hasn't seen any return on any of it. Had he stuck his extra earnings in a low-yield savings account even, he would be in a great place now.

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Posted by: lachesis ( )
Date: June 17, 2018 12:48PM

I have a friend in DoTerra and I live nowhere near Utah. But I’ve wondered if people in MLMs ever realize their social circles are getting smaller. I just cringe when this friend wants to host anything at her house. Another of our friends will say “I know. Let’s meet at Cheddars and I’ll buy your dinner.” She says it’s cheaper than feeling compelled to buy something when you go to her house. And she’s not as pushy other places.

Now she has added Monat and one called Rodan & Fields. Anyone ever heard of either of these? Are they Mormon based too? I laugh when she says how great her hair is on Monet. She keeps it very short. Sure, newer hair always feels better. I just hate all MLMs and hate socializing with MLM groupies.

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Posted by: NeverMo in CA ( )
Date: June 17, 2018 01:21PM

Rodan and Fields are the dermatologists who created the Proactiv anti-line line of products. You'd think they'd be so rich from that, they wouldn't need to start an MLM scheme too.

As for DoTerra, I have a few friends who are its "consultants" but have only lost money on it (since they end up buying more product than they can sell). I was going to buy a few oils from one of them a few years ago, mostly out of pity for her, but she said I had to "technically" be signed up as a DoTerra consultant in order to buy from her. I don't know if that was true but suspect it was because she'd make a little more money bringing another person into the MLM than she would by just selling me some of the products. Anyway, the person who turned my friends onto DoTerra is a TBM, although my friends who fell for it are never-Mos.

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Posted by: NeverMo in CA ( )
Date: June 17, 2018 01:21PM

Sorry, not "anti-line"--"anti-acne line."

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Posted by: Familydestroyers ( )
Date: June 17, 2018 04:14PM

Doterra Essential oils and concecrated olive oil .. just a coincidence?

I think not

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Posted by: grootheprophet ( )
Date: June 17, 2018 04:30PM

Asea is another MLM that a lot of my friends are in. It is supposed to be heavily oxygenated water . . . maybe inside the bottle, but the second you open it the excess oxygen is going to detach from the dihydrogen monoxygen because that is its most stable state.

https://aseaglobal.com



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Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: June 17, 2018 06:49PM

DoTerra is based in Pleasant Grove, UT. But the only person I know who distributes doTerra is a Unitarian woman of limited means in Augusta, GA. She can get pretty desperate on Facebook, because she really needs the money and does sales pitches to us all the time. She even claims that some essential oil cured her diabetes and breast cancer. That's a dangerous claim.

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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: June 17, 2018 06:53PM

The connection is that both require credulity and the ability to shamelessly sell crap.

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Posted by: ApostNate ( )
Date: June 18, 2018 12:25AM

The founder of Doterra lives in Nephi Utah and is mormon. She used to work at Young Living Essential Oils and decided to start her own snake oil cult and has become filthy rich.

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