Posted by:
Anon the Great
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Date: September 16, 2018 11:08PM
The correct answer is to lie unless you want to make a public scene to change the LDS Church. Masturbation and premarital sex is not in the Ten Commandments, and the LDS authorities have no right to ask those questions. Tell them what they want to hear. We need to be as wise as snakes, so to speak.
Now if the person is gay and someone else tattled to the Bishop, then the person lies. It is told there must be a misunderstood joke that you told. It is just untrue gossip going around. They are not lying, but they misread the joke. The jokes on me. bla bla bla I'm not gay.
That should end the problem.
If the gay persons want to come out and say the truth, and fight the LDS Church, and the Church wants to excommunicate or disfellowship them personally, then they fight fire with fire. They know the Church is false, but they want to stay in the Church for social reasons. Then they can be discrete in their practice of it and lie. Or they defend themselves if they want to make a public stink about it.
The Sodom and Gomorrah story is misread. and the gays were not destroyed for being gay, but they were destroy for pushing the practice on children and adults against their mind and will. God is about freedom, and that is reasoning used to the authorities. Simpl tweak the interpretation with rational thought, and no more fighting over the issue of gender that the Bible doesn't say anything about. Gay behavior is a sin is an assumption everyone makes based on tradition. It is not in the Ten Commandments or golden rule.
If they bring out Paul's first chapter in Romans, then the rational argument is he was confronting the people in secret societies in his days that do all the things he writes because they do it to flip off Yahweh to prove he is a lying criminal. Paul is not talking to the gays at the bottom of the pyramid structure that are outsiders. They don't have the same intention of the gays at the bottom on as outsiders, so the gays can use this reasoning to confront the Bishops or Stake Presidents and leave them speechless.
Warn them these ideas will go public, and you promise to keep the practice discrete and not promote it in the church, they will back down and keep it quiet, and you will not be excommunicated. They would not want a public fight against reasonable ideas.
But the gays can have a heyday with these ideas and force the LDS Church to change like they did with blacks and the priesthood. It may take five or ten years for the Church to accept the practice secretly, if the practice is made discrete in Church for the sake of the children. Eventually, the FAKE prophet and apostles will make a policy change under political pressure, but eventually, the gays will not be excommunicated based on the Bible they supposedly follow, but don't.
If the Church keeps pushing excommunication, the gays can stand up publicly that the Mormon Church is going to excommunicate them supposedly based on the Bible, which is an irrational interpretation, because they won't stone them to death anymore, which is Biblical hypocrisy.
These kinds of ideas, by stepping out of the paradigm boxes, will give the winning hand to the gays who are not gay like some we know in the news today who are also child molesters to flip the finger at the God of Moses. Whether the ideas are true or not, it doesn't matter; the reasoning is solid. Finally, use the Book of Mormon against them. The Bible doesn't say it, but Book of Mormon says the Law of Moses was done away with Christ;and therefore, so went away the Levitical law of punishing gays. Point to the Book of Mormon and say, "Look! It says not to punish the gays anymore. This something the LDS Church needs to change like blacks and priesthood!" Now that's a whole different discussion, and I won't bore anyone.
To summarize, the first strategy is to lie because you are lying about yourself and not bearing false witness against your neighbor. If they find out the truth from an informant, say it must be a misunderstanding. Don't lie about your neighbor. The next level is if you want to make a public stink about it. These are mortal principles of power we need to reasonably work out in our own minds.
Someone in history must have understood mortal and moral appear to come from same root ideas. It would be a project worth investigating the theory, but I just thought about it, without doing the research. Next I will do the research to prove the theory true or false if possible. I don't know the facts.