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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 12:11PM

"Hard-core pornography is now available at candy stores and supermarkets at popular prices."
https://www.lds.org/ensign/1973/07/power-of-evil?lang=eng

Sounds like a pitch to me. What did he think of The Internet when it came out???

And then there is this cautionary tale.

"A college student hoping to repent of some serious mistakes and straighten out his life told me only a few days ago of an influence which, for a time, controlled his life. His desire to have some expert ski equipment encouraged him to accept a job on Sundays and evenings. This prevented him from attending priesthood and other Sunday meetings. Now he was too tired to attend early morning seminary. With his new, fancy ski equipment, he made the high school team and made some new friends. To be “with it,” he started to smoke and soon moved to marijuana and from marijuana to LSD. His father and mother now appeared old-fashioned to him. He moved from his parents’ home to live with his newfound friends in an old house. The house had extra rooms, so they invited a young lady—also on drugs—to move in. His father tried to visit him, to communicate through letters. But this young man now felt completely disenchanted with church and home. After these tragic mistakes, he finally came to his senses and moved home with his parents. He told me, “The devil seemed to be in charge of my life.”"
https://www.lds.org/ensign/1973/07/power-of-evil?lang=eng


Obviously skiing is The Devil's Gateway. I guess golf is godly. Lots of GAs do that I've heard.

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Posted by: babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 12:18PM

It’s so sad when mom and dad don’t drop.

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Posted by: BrightAqua ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 12:20PM

College kids don't go to early-morning seminary....

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 12:26PM

I guess Stan's only opportunity for being in charge of water was on frozen water (snow on ski slopes).

Was there any nude skiing or porn shoulders involved on the slopes? Maybe in the lodge.

eta: At least the grocery stores in Utah don't sell liquor (& wine?) like the heathen ones in Washington do.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/27/2018 12:31PM by GNPE.

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Posted by: StillAnon ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 12:31PM

Right- because LSD helps competitive skiers perform so well. Especially having a flashback in the middle of a downhill run. This is BS. But, then again, in 1973 they were telling tales of kids, that took a few hits of a joint, diving into empty swimming pools, trying to stop trains and robbing banks. Remember those movies in high school? They never showed a bunch of kids eating ding dongs and sleeping.

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Posted by: Wally Prince ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 01:14PM

and he thought that LSD was approved and sold by the LSD Church. It was an honest mistake.

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Posted by: messygoop ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 12:34PM

Perhaps this is an excellent example why Ga's started having their talks prepared by church writers. Obviously, they were making slip-ups in their semi-true, faith-promoting fables.

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Posted by: Wally Prince ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 01:19PM

I wonder if Haight actually wrote it himself or if he had a speechwriter. My guess is that they had underlings writing speeches for them even back then.

I'd bet that 90% of the Morgbots who heard that talk didn't pick up on the incongruities.

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Posted by: Wally Prince ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 12:56PM

"coffee shop" and then proceeded to ride around the city on my bicycle. I had a strange detached feeling while riding and eventually got lost.

It turned out to be a gateway to....not having any more marijuana brownies. (I'm still addicted to regular brownies, but that started when I was 3.)

I once got a bottle of vodka, thinking that it would be a gateway to something special. After drinking a shot, I found out that it was a gateway to extreme drowsiness.

Those are my "gateway drug" stories. I decided to quit while I was behind. I'm still wrestling with the brownie habit.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 01:05PM

Wally Prince Wrote:
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> Those are my "gateway drug" stories. I decided to
> quit while I was behind. I'm still wrestling with
> the brownie habit.

Would you like to sign-up for my 12 step addiction plan?

I'm calling it the BAP: Brownie Avoidance Plan.

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Posted by: Wally Prince ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 01:20PM

But I always get tripped up on the first step. It turns out that it's important to want to avoid brownies...and I haven't been able to fully commit to that step.

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Posted by: not logged in ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 01:02PM

OK, hold on…

"A college student hoping to repent"

"he made the high school team"

A college student made the high school team?

"he started to smoke and soon moved to marijuana and from marijuana to LSD… moved from his parents’ home"

Did he do all this in college or high school?

Totally BS story.

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Posted by: Historischer ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 01:23PM

I read the story carefully. It looks like he went bad in high school, right after he made the team. Then he wanted to repent in college, after he had moved back in with his parents.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 02:40PM

That is how I read it.

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Posted by: Wally Prince ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 01:10PM

I loved this gem: "Now he was too tired to attend early morning seminary."

C'mon! Let's be serious. EVERYONE was always too tired to attend early morning seminary. (You Utah people probably never had to experience that atrocity.)

Other things didn't make people "too tired to attend early morning seminary". Early morning seminary made people too tired for everything else in their life.

Early morning seminary made people too tired for their regular schoolwork. As a result, they got bad grades. That led to despair and depression. Despair and depression made them turn to cheap, promiscuous sex, hard liquor and narcotics. That led to crime and misery.

Early morning seminary ruined more lives than any ski equipment ever did.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 01:16PM

Wally Prince Wrote:
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> I loved this gem: "Now he was too tired to attend
> early morning seminary."
>
> C'mon! Let's be serious. EVERYONE was always too
> tired to attend early morning seminary. (You Utah
> people probably never had to experience that
> atrocity.)
>
> Other things didn't make people "too tired to
> attend early morning seminary". Early morning
> seminary made people too tired for everything else
> in their life.
>
> Early morning seminary made people too tired for
> their regular schoolwork. As a result, they got
> bad grades. That led to despair and depression.
> Despair and depression made them turn to cheap,
> promiscuous sex, hard liquor and narcotics. That
> led to crime and misery.
>
> Early morning seminary ruined more lives than any
> ski equipment ever did.

U forgot porn.

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Posted by: Wally Prince ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 01:27PM

condition experienced DURING early morning seminary, was to let go and give yourself up to hallucinations about porn.

It was surreal. You'd find yourself drifting in and out of consciousness, while the teacher droned on about something like the angelic visitations to restore the priesthood and...the next thing you know...you're dreaming about some hot babe of an angel in an angel robe telling you something about magnifying your priesthood.

Early morning seminary was a terrible influence.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 03:51PM

GNPE Wrote:
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> U forgot porn.

Now that porn is easier to get than in candy stores and such, young people are turning to porn more and more.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/living-single/201811/7-reasons-why-young-people-are-having-less-sex

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 01:31PM

One of the dating sites I visit from time-to-time makes a (WHY???) distinction between "soft-core" & "hard-core" porn in one of the questions they ask as part of your profile...

I could never understand or determine any difference; If you're going to watch people ****ing, why any difference???

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Posted by: mel ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 02:23PM

Wally and GNPE,

THANK YOU for the laughs....hahahha!

Wanting to avoid brownies...BAP.....

Great stuff here!!!

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Posted by: Concerned Citizen 2.0 ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 04:40PM

...first, they lure the kiddies into porn by the use of the cute, innocent, Pez dispenser. From there, the young ones demand more intense and titillating stimuli, which the greedy retailers gladly provide........sad.

http://www.thefolkfarm.com/MMJ.JPG

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 05:28PM

Love it. Reminds me of "Nuuuurse!"

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Posted by: antsclimbingtrees(notloggedin) ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 04:54PM

There's a funny (whell, not actually funny, since a parable about the murder of Matt Shepard,) atheist pamphlet calld "Fred Wanted To Ski."

More on-topic, this article sounds ridiculously dated. Not many youths do LSD anymore. Ecstasy would be more believable.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 05:28PM

antsclimbingtrees(notloggedin) Wrote:
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> More on-topic, this article sounds ridiculously
> dated. Not many youths do LSD anymore. Ecstasy
> would be more believable.

IT is. The title of the post was the give-away. Who gets their porn in a candy store?

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Posted by: antsclimbingtrees(notloggedin) ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 05:37PM

The few people who still consume printed porn, I would imagine get it by subscription, or from actual adult stores. Or truck stops.

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Posted by: antsclimbingtrees(notloggedin) ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 05:42PM

(Speaking of porn, I'm trying to do coursework in a library and there are two homeless people in the other study carrel talking about porn. Really. Loud. )

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 05:43PM

I don't think anywhere outside adult places sell it - even truck stops.

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Posted by: antsclimbingtrees(notloggedin) ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 06:03PM

I've seen it in truck stops. They just put a black plastic cover over it with only the title.

(They're actually fighting now, It's so weird.)
(Update: they're getting kicked out. )

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Posted by: slskipper ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 06:30PM

We all know, of course, that the story is 100% completely made up. Name? Which college? Pics or it didn't happen.

The talk was geared exactly to the "Silent Majority" types of 1973- parents who were simply not able to grasp the reasons that the younger generation were rebelling and demonstrating and protesting. Better minds than mine have tried to understand the vast generation gap of those days. The sad fact is that the Silent Majority are currently running the no-longer-Mormon church. Their whole life has been geared to vanquishing any traces of individualism on the part of those younger than them.

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Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 08:41PM

Geez, these object lessons and stories in church magazines are always fabricated and staff-written. They're total bull-Shiz.

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Posted by: ziller ( )
Date: November 27, 2018 09:08PM

in b 4 ~ candy stores and supermarkets need to be regulated ! ~



in b 4 ~ it is time to ban even candy stores and supermarkets ~

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: November 28, 2018 05:36PM

Candy stores are Mormon favorites. They have soda shops all over Utah now. Liquid candy stores.

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Posted by: moremany ( )
Date: November 28, 2018 01:44AM

I don't know what a popular price is but I'd be willing to bet the MOST popular 'price' is FREE!

It must be.

M@t

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: November 28, 2018 05:54AM

The ski story plays into the theme of, "the world is a dangerous place and the only safe place is the church." In reality, most college kids who realize they need to make a change...make a change. I did it. I realize the crowd I was friendly with as a sophomore was going in a direction I didn't want to go. So I moved back into the dorm my junior year and made a new group of friends. In all my time at school I only knew of one student who was so far gone that she needed parental intervention and to return home. It happens, but IMO it's far more common that kids take charge of their own lives.

The speaker also puts down kids in high school who get jobs for whatever reason, as if college, cars, and even missions pay for themselves. A kid who wants new, "fancy" ski equipment may be skiing on twenty year old hand-me-down skis with rusty, unsafe bindings. And who was paying for his ski tickets, anyway? Skiing is an expensive sport.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/28/2018 05:55AM by summer.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: November 28, 2018 05:35PM

Interesting. Yes demonize an old rite of passage for youth - experimentation and friends to do I with.

Funny that he is showing pleasure seeking as evil but not a psychological penchant in humans for mistreating each other, psychopathic manipulation, abuse of others and not just substances, etc..

Wouldn't The Devil want embodied helpers? Does he only want to create pushers and hedonistic people?

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Posted by: CateS ( )
Date: November 28, 2018 05:54PM

Are you kidding? New? I don't think so.

When I was a kid in the early 1970's, it was available at the corner candy store at the end of my street in Lakewood, Ohio.

Twins. The two greasy, middle-aged brothers who were the proud proprietors of this fine establishment sold goods such as cigarettes, beer, soda, plenty of soft-core and hard-core porn along with my neighborhood's best selection of penny candy.

Yes, the Playboy was prominently displayed on the front counter (with a strategically-placed, brown paper label with "$1" emblazoned in Marks-a-Lot magic marker) right in front of the candy display.

The hard core stuff was located in a brown paper lined cabinet to the left of the register. I had the misfortune of discovering this cache one evening while I was waiting for my turn to make my candy selections.

Lost in awe at the image of a massively-titted bimbo looking over her shoulder at me, a coquettish smile on her face, I was unaware that my curiosity had drawn the attention and ire, of the elder of the twins. Before I realized what was happening (much less what I was looking at,) an iron grip clapped onto my shoulder and quickly threw me out of the store, all to the background of snickering men queuing up to by their 40's.

Humiliated, this 8-year-old, crawled home in shame, promising myself that in future, I'd take my Turkish Taffy custom to Revco, thank you very much.

So sorry, Ensign, you're about 5 decades late with your breaking news.

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Posted by: [|[ ( )
Date: November 28, 2018 06:30PM

Well, the ensign article posted was from July 1973 ;-).

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Posted by: smirkorama ( )
Date: November 28, 2018 06:42PM

hard core porn was ALWAYS available at Supermarkets through out the 60's and 70's when I was growing up. .......It STILL IS. It is literary porn or porn in print, the kind of porn that women like and that is generally quite acceptable to society. It is called romance novels.

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Posted by: Curelom Joe ( )
Date: November 28, 2018 09:01PM

If men like it, it's "pornography." But if women like it, it gets a promotion and is called "erotica."

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Posted by: Pompous Pete ( )
Date: November 28, 2018 11:46PM

where do they fit into the whole porn spectrum? (Not that I would have any first-hand experience. I always looked at them for the articles and information on new toys.)

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: November 29, 2018 11:05AM

National Geographic and The Sears Catalogue where my first porn.

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Posted by: smirkorama ( )
Date: November 28, 2018 06:59PM

Of course skiing is a fast road to Hell, because it was recreational and ANY activity, especially like recreational ones that entices people to do something besides strictly living THE (MORmON) gospel and that distracts from the strict regimen of attending MORmON meetings is pure EVIL.

one day a person gives in to seriously contemplating doing something recreational (EVIL !!!!!) and two weeks later they are are in the iron clad grasp of Satan, as they are mainlining heroine, snorting cocaine, smoking cigarettes, drinking booze, cavorting with prostitutes, and murdering toddlers which all came about by a person missing a MORmON church meeting.


......OF COURSE when THE (MORmON) church (PR genius Gordon BS Hinckley) decided that they wanted to host the winter olympics for in MORmON Zion Utah for publicity reasons, then winter sports became a little more acceptable.

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