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Posted by: Hockeyrat ( )
Date: December 08, 2018 06:15PM

I just saw the advertisement on the Oxygen channel for the special on Susan Powell to start at 7:00 PM tonight. It comes on again at 11:00 PM, EST

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: December 08, 2018 06:36PM

I've seen that ad too. They're usually pretty good shows. Seems Mormons are disproportionately represented on that channel, by population (not propensity.)

Dark subject matter. Yesterday I watched one about the Mormon son who murdered his parents for his inheritance, to pay off gambling debts. He was living a double life. Described as an evil psychopath.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: December 08, 2018 10:34PM

Amyjo Wrote:
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> I've seen that ad too. They're usually pretty good
> shows. Seems Mormons are disproportionately
> represented on that channel, by population (not
> propensity.)
>
> Dark subject matter. Yesterday I watched one about
> the Mormon son who murdered his parents for his
> inheritance, to pay off gambling debts. He was
> living a double life. Described as an evil
> psychopath.

Amyjo:

a psychopath is someone who harms others without remorse; therefore, all psychopaths are evil, it's a bit redundant.

there certainly are other forms of evil however.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: December 08, 2018 10:38PM

I don't find calling a psychopath evil redundant.

Opinions are not facts.

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Posted by: anonculus ( )
Date: December 08, 2018 10:46PM

Amen.

Redundancy is a legitimate rhetorical technique for emphasis.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: December 09, 2018 02:10AM

That is a true truth.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: December 09, 2018 02:15PM

I agree, redundancy is a rhetorical tool.
I didn't say or suggest it was unwarranted or misleading.

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Posted by: Hockeyrat ( )
Date: December 08, 2018 06:41PM

I saw that too. Yes, they have good shows on that channel. I loved the ID channel, but they don’t offer it where we live now. I miss that channel.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: December 08, 2018 06:55PM

We had to change cable providers when Time Warner sold to Spectrum. Lost some good channels I really enjoyed, even as the prices continued to hike. W/TWC we could re-negotiate our bill annually. That's off the table w/Spectrum.

It's one of three service providers in our area. And the only one that doesn't require a contract, or I'd switch.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: December 08, 2018 08:45PM

Well that ended badly.

So senseless and twisted. Local law enforcement messed up royally in awarding that man supervised visitation. Absolutely insane. What a bastard.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: December 08, 2018 10:12PM

Law enforcement (police) didn't award anything.

child support & visitation are awarded by judges, on recommendation of family social workers.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: December 08, 2018 10:14PM

If I'm near someone who says: 'they're in a better place now', I'll be tempted to smack them into 'a better place'



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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: December 08, 2018 10:43PM

Local law enforcement encompasses the courts, judges, and recommendations of those who had the power to act responsibly and failed to. That also includes the police and DA who had grounds to make an arrest and didn't. Which is all too typical of Utah cops and DA. They did the same in the Martin McNeill case and others.

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Posted by: SusieQ#1 ( )
Date: December 08, 2018 10:44PM

GNPE Wrote:
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> Law enforcement (police) didn't award anything.
>
> child support & visitation are awarded by judges,
> on recommendation of family social workers.


Exactly. I was a Supervising Monitor appointed by Judges. When I saw what happened, in this case, I couldn't believe my eyes.

Most of my visitations were in neutral places. I never took my eyes off of the children.

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Posted by: Hockeyrat ( )
Date: December 08, 2018 09:09PM

Yep, he seemed mentally off from the getgo.His father was a piece of work too, the pervert. For some reason, I thought there would be newer info. It seems like we’ve seen this before .
I know the other one was on the ID channel, because it was about a year ago in our old house.
It didn’t really elaborate much on the church and her involvement in it.
It would of been nice if it was longer and interviewed more members, but the church probably discouraged that.
Can’t have any negative press on the church

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: December 08, 2018 10:48PM

The apple (son,) didn't fall far from the tree, did he?

That dad was a real work of art. What a perv. Turned out the son was too.



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Posted by: Jimbo ( )
Date: December 09, 2018 07:57AM

I blame West Valley City police . how much probable cause do you need ?

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: December 09, 2018 08:11AM

Exactly. They had a strong circumstantial case for the murder of his wife, along with probable cause and motive. An arrest should've been imminent. Once they had the child incest pictures of the father found on his computer, that in itself should've been enough to ban visitation with his children.

The system failed those kids. Law enforcement inept.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/09/2018 10:30AM by Amyjo.

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Posted by: danr ( )
Date: December 09, 2018 12:25PM

There is a very detailed podcast with recordings from Josh and Susan. It is called "Cold" by KSL.

The narrator is obviously TBM as he says "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" over and over again, never once does he say Mormon. It actually sounds very awkward, and that title won't stick because Mormon is so much easier to say and recognized.

Other than that, give it a listen.

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Posted by: tumwater ( )
Date: December 09, 2018 01:54PM

I followed this case as Puyallup WA is just down the road from where I lived and it was in the papers all the time.

To me, Susan wanted to get married soon after meeting Josh. Susan's family seemed to sense that something wasn't right with the relationship, but she went ahead with the wedding.

Nothing was ever said if Josh was a RM, but they married in the temple.

It seems it was a bad match to start, and they were both too young to get married, they barely knew anything about each other. Pressure to marry ASAP?

Everything is so messed up and so sad for everyone involved and having a FIL that lusted after her and was a voyeur was to much.

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