“Corey has preached from the Bible what he believes, his interpretation and what the Bible says about a woman dressing modestly, and he believes that in today’s day and age, pants on a woman sometimes can show a woman’s body immodestly,” said Seulean. “That’s why he’s taught it’s proper, he believes, for a woman to wear a dress or modest culottes. He might not have used that exact terminology, but he believes yes, a woman should dress modestly, and part of that goes into women not wearing pants.”



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Wow. Christian burka man.

I like how it's OK to wear modest culottes when cleaning or biking and such. They "look" like a skirt. LOL. How generous of him.

His wife Pam doesn't own any pants! I hope her dress never gets lifted by wind.

This is his "interpretation" of the Bible. If he wins his seat, we are one step closer to crazy.

Let him wear a dress and see how he likes it. Put it on and go out on a windy day. Walk in heels for a long time. Try wearing panty hose. Yeah, I don't think so.

I don't even own a dress anymore.

He should also be forced to sit on one of those little low Primary chairs. With the high heels raising your feet, your knees are very high in the air. Not at all "modest."

I don't own any church-type skirts that are long enough. I'm not tall enough to carry it, and I look like a drowned, frumpy little mouse, in all that material. A long skirt trips me, going up the stairs. It was hard to negotiate the organ pedals in a long skirt, and when I was alone, I would pull up the skirt, and wad it up above my knees. (I couldn't play the pedals in high heels, so I always had to change into organ shoes.)

Greyfort, how you get away with not having any skirts? I need advice.

I want to go to a Mormon senior-missionary homecoming, and will probably have to buy a skirt to wear with my tops, and will look hideous at the party, afterwards. I'm considering switching the skirt for pants, in the car, on my way to the party.

I had the same problem last month. It was an afternoon too hot for panty hose (an extra layer of garments would have caused heat stroke, for sure) so I wore a beach-y linen skirt (which was long enough), and couldn't wear sandals with it, because those are a no-no, now, so I wore Sketcher flats. I looked like I was having too much fun, but it was better than being a miserable mouse.

I am fed up with Mormon restrictions. I was a TBM woman, and not allowed into priesthood meetings. When I couldn't afford tithing, I wasn't allowed into the temple. Now, I'm a pants-wearing woman. The way I feel, if pants-wearing women aren't allowed, then I will just stay home. "I won't be going--I don't have the right costume."

Pants are not the same as leggings. I don't understand how pants can be modest for a man, and immodest for a woman; after all, a man has more to show.

Mother Who Knows Wrote:
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> Greyfort, how you get away with not having any
> skirts? I need advice ... I don't understand how pants can be modest for a man, and immodest for a woman.


I guess I don't go anyplace where a dress or skirt would be absolutely required. I wear a nice shirt and pants to work. I wear pants and a fancier shirt if I go to a play or something.

There's nowhere I go where I couldn't wear pants.

Yeah, that doesn't make sense that it's only immodest for a woman to wear pants.

I wear pants (or capris, or shorts) something like 99 days out of a hundred. Honestly, I would just wear what you want to wear -- pants, sandals, etc. Let the Mormons get over it. It's 2019. Women wear pants. Women wear skirts without stockings and with sandals. Someone has to get the ball rolling in that regard.

The last two Catholic funerals I've been to, I've worn black pants and a black top. Not only did no one blink an eye, a number of other women were dressed similarly.

I'm one who also wears pants or some form of shorts 99% of the time, and the time I wear a skirt, it's a sundress with sandals so I'm exposing my porn shoulders.

I admit that I am overly sensitive about Mormons telling me what to do, after a lifetime of that BS. But, I don't want to give them an opportunity to shun or gossip, either. I have no desire to confront them.

I will go out of my way to avoid wearing a long skirt. I'm not tall enough, either, and I like to play with little kids, move around, bend over, go out in the wind, ride a bicycle or a horse or a scooter, if I get the chance. High heels are too constricting, too, like having bound feet. Our feet hurt, we can't run, we slip on the ice. Some of my Mormon friends have had foot surgery and have permanent foot damage, from wearing high heels.

High heels used to be required in the BYU dress code, everywhere on the campus, all day on Sundays. "Skirt, heels and hose." Sometimes, we would have to walk a mile to church meetings there, and in the snow, and our feet and legs would be freezing, and no one cared. We were just females.

I don't go where a skirt is required, either. Pants are dressy enough for an opera or a dinner or a business cocktail party. I'm single, and I stay home and babysit on New Year's Eve. IMO, dancing and tennis are the only activities where a skirt is better, for the sake of movement.

I wear pants to other religious events, with no problem. If a Mormon funeral is being held at a mortuary chapel, pants are fine there, too. Most of my family members have had funerals at a mortuary, or just a graveside service. As for Mormon funerals, I avoid the preaching in the chapel, altogether. I go to the viewing the night before, so I won't miss work. I can give the family my condolences, and sign the guest register, so they will know I'm there, and thinking of them, and it is good to say some nice, happy things about the deceased, etc. I like to write something short and sweet on the mortuary website, too, and that's all they need from me. For me, hearing a sermon on the Plan of Salvation upsets me, and does nothing to honor the deceased. I go and do something we would have done together.

Are men allowed to.wear pants and, if so, why is that modest?

Indeed, aren't pants *more* immodest for males? A male in pants is revealing much more of his male anatomy than a female is revealing hers (except in the case of camel toe).

Perhaps he should try wearing a kilt on a snowy, blustery Colorado day and report back about his experience. I would think most Colorado women would just laugh at him. It can snow 12 months of the year there.

Don’t the ladies have it easier? Their junk isn’t trying to crawl back inside.

I pity the women who follow this yokel.

when I went to jr. high and we had to wear dresses every damn day. Then we went to high school and we could wear pants, but they had to be a pantsuit. By senior year (freshman in high school I went to), we could wear jeans. (It is of note we didn't have to wear dresses every day to elementary school.)

I remember when my mother wore dresses every day and all the other ladies did, too. They did all their work in them, although my mother didn't work on our farm in a dress.

And he wants us to go back. ha ha ha Like that is going to happen.



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Same for me, but this old lady is sitting at her desk in the office in jeans right now. We no longer have a dress code. I wear jeans unless the big bosses are here and then I wear dress pants. I own dresses, but never wear them to work.

What!?

Doesn't this do fuss know/understand that dresses & skirts can also be worn immodestly / revealing ?


Get A Life, dude.

I'm just curious as to which is more unbearable. The chauvinistic pig that demands women should dress a particular way (no pants) or women that agree with him and try to reinforce the norm with snide remarks at women that dare to dress as they please?

I know that my Mom would like to wear pants to church when she pleases, but she is afraid from the blowback that would come from her peers.

Research done at the Institute for the Preservation of Modesty (cuz otherwise you can’t have immodesty) has proven that no one wears pants in heaven.

Dresses used to be for rich people.

Pants were for working in.

It was a point of pride to "take care" of your woman so she didn't have to work hard. Keep her in a dress. "Ladies" wore dresses. Peasants wore what worked.

https://www.britannica.com/story/when-did-women-start-wearing-pants

This isn't true. In the past everyone, including men, wore dresses. Horse riding peoples adopted trousers as a practicality.

If you look at photographs of women from the nineteenth century, working in the fields etc, they didn't wear trousers.

We seem to disagree on the heritage - legacy and economic connection of women wearing pants (or not), but I don't see that memory - historical basis for this social stigma surviving to today;


As Henry Ford (+ also from earlier?) is frequently quoted:


"History is bunk."

If anyone actually reads the scriptures about modesty, it has nothing whatsoever to do with covering the body (male or female - but isn't it always about the female?). Modesty is about not flaunting wealth by wearing expensive clothes, jewels, braided hair, etc., when you could be spending that money on helping the poor.

Excellent observation!

Nudity and partial nudity we're not really that big a thing prior to and during Christ’s life. ”Respect” was more important, which is why some dude got into trouble for seeing his dad naked. It wasn't the nudity, per se.

Nobody was stoned or sold into slavery for porn shoulders...