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Posted by: josephssmmyth ( )
Date: October 19, 2020 07:39AM

Sometimes I reflect back on the experiences that led me to maybe derive maybe a certain amount of, I don't know, possibly comfort and assurance knowing Mormonism (heh, church deleted word) was anything near to what it was cracked up to be.

That'll be the last time I pray for the rest of my family, so that they all might not be Mormon anymore.

Poof.. Done.. Next prayer please!

Nevermind, That's not really what I meant. Funny God..

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Posted by: Done & Done ( )
Date: October 19, 2020 09:56AM

For so long I wished my family could see through Mormonism and leave it in the dust. Hurt me to watch, to listen. But, all these years later, I realize they got the life they deserve.

Recently a family gathering was a perfect example of forced happiness, forced caring, by the ones who even cared to pretend anymore. The Mormon version of duty. The judgement from one sister who was judging the others on what she perceived to be the duty of each was staggering as she contributed just enough to allow here in her mind to claim to contribute the most.

Another brother just thanked everyone profusely and kept using saying how he loved us all as a way of excusing the fact that he contributed nothing to what he family is going through presently. Of course he is the one who made MP, Area Seventy, and TP--not to be confused with toilet paper which is actually useful.


Mormonism is superficiality reificated.

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Posted by: josephssmmyth ( )
Date: October 19, 2020 10:26AM

Done & Done Wrote:
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> For so long I wished my family could see through
> Mormonism and leave it in the dust. Hurt me to
> watch, to listen.

Pain, the type we thankfully minimise or try and avoid if at all possible!

To reificate real pain through the LDS organization, mental pain followed by maybe emotional pain (or alongside) actual physical pain. So maybe the pain is real and that itself helps make the fake church true.

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Posted by: Done & Done ( )
Date: October 19, 2020 12:38PM

Well put.

I see a lot of the down side of Mormonism only strengthening my families resolve as they are "in it to win it" with their beliefs no matter what. There is a line they have crossed.

God is always testing them, Ha Ha Ha.

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Posted by: josephssmmyth ( )
Date: October 20, 2020 05:59PM

Done & Done Wrote:
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> Well put.
>
> I see a lot of the down side of Mormonism only
> strengthening my families resolve as they are "in
> it to win it" with their beliefs no matter what.
> There is a line they have crossed.
>
> God is always testing them, Ha Ha Ha.


As in possibly a virtual and all too real, point of no return?
Interesting, very interesting!

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Posted by: thegoodman ( )
Date: October 21, 2020 12:25AM

There are strong TBM members of my family. I fear being reindoctrinated. I was fully committed and brainwashed. Like, I HAD that thought, my first visit to the temple, "I'm in a cult." I stayed. For the entire first month I found this stuff out, I'd read the CES letter and read the gaslighting of the Gospel Topics Essays and I STILL was questioning whether I was being deceived by Satan.

I don't want to say "screw 'em" about family but call me selfish for putting my own needs ahead of theirs. If I were to try to convince them I would lose them. ...or be sucked back in by being reprogrammed if they were given the opportunity to do so. We're in the Matrix. Any one of them could turn into an Agent if I am perceived as "hostile" to their faith.

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Posted by: josephssmmyth ( )
Date: October 21, 2020 03:32AM

thegoodman Wrote:
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> There are strong TBM members of my family. I fear
> being reindoctrinated. I was fully committed and
> brainwashed. Like, I HAD that thought, my first
> visit to the temple, "I'm in a cult." I stayed.
> For the entire first month I found this stuff out,
> I'd read the CES letter and read the gaslighting
> of the Gospel Topics Essays and I STILL was
> questioning whether I was being deceived by Satan.
>
>
> I don't want to say "screw 'em" about family but
> call me selfish for putting my own needs ahead of
> theirs. If I were to try to convince them I would
> lose them. ...or be sucked back in by being
> reprogrammed if they were given the opportunity to
> do so. We're in the Matrix. Any one of them could
> turn into an Agent if I am perceived as "hostile"
> to their faith.

You've put that pretty succinctly into nice little nutshell the moment the movie (Matrix) was mentioned. God and Mormonism are one in only the eyes of the LDS practitioners as maybe a gross generalisation. I'm a bit sloppy too, sorry.

I'm in cult recovery, what can I say?

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