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Posted by: cliff ( )
Date: June 11, 2021 09:54PM

which is stronger, peterson's racism
or oaks's homophobia?

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Posted by: cheezus ( )
Date: June 12, 2021 01:58AM

Every thing I needed to know about sex, I learned from Mark E Peterson.

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Posted by: Anono ( )
Date: June 12, 2021 08:25AM

Petersen was also very hophobic.

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Posted by: 2 early 2 log in ( )
Date: June 12, 2021 09:51AM

Which is worse, disco or polka?

Which is worse, cholera or yellow fever?

Which is uglier, a tarantula or a wolf spider?

Who is shorter, Bashful or Sleepy?

Which is dumber, the Book of Ether or the Book of Abraham?

Six of one, half-dozen of the other. Does it matter?

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Posted by: Done & Done ( )
Date: June 12, 2021 11:42AM

Dallin and Petersen are not six of one and half a dozen of the other.

I do think the actions of those claiming to speak on God's behalf deserve scrutiny.

Petersen was a product of his time and his views on homosexuality, masturbation, and racism were not far from a large portion of the rest of the country. That was my era and Mormon views weren't all that unusual. By today's standards Petersen's views are beyond appalling. His words did do damage. And yes, there was a smug superiority to them even as he layered them with "Mormon love".

Oaks was pretty much on the same page as Petersen. His words however bore a special arrogance. Didn't even try to gild with Mormon love. He had ratcheted things up a notch. But Oaks went Petersen one better when he authorized the Electro-Shock treatments and devastating coercion on my gay friends at BYU in the early seventies.

There is a meanness to Oaks that I never saw with Petersen and Petersen came to lunch at our house after dedicating our Chapel in the early sixties.

Oaks actions speak louder than Petersen's words.

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