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Posted by: MeAgain ( )
Date: May 22, 2016 02:27AM

Who decides what kind of cars should be purchased, and who decides what dealership the cars should be purchased from?
Who authorizes cars to be purchased?

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Posted by: meeks101 ( )
Date: May 22, 2016 02:46AM

I believe the area chooses the car budget, mission presidents can decide specifics. In my mission, the mp decided to switch out a 14 seater commercial van. And rent a Mitsubishi lancer when needed. The elders in the offices loved that decision. Let me tell you.

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Posted by: Villager ( )
Date: May 22, 2016 02:51AM

I have heard Garff's in SLC has a pretty tight relationship with the upper lords of the LDS corporation. I assumed this was for mercedes etc. ..not for missionary beater cars.

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Posted by: MeAgain ( )
Date: May 24, 2016 06:09AM

The Garffs sell cars to the LDS missions?

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Posted by: MeAgain ( )
Date: May 24, 2016 06:12AM

Why doesn't the LDS church own car dealerships, or do they?

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Posted by: MeAgain ( )
Date: May 24, 2016 06:22AM

City Creek Cars?
Deseret Auto?
Graff Automobile?
They're a religious automobiles firm?
They get paid dealership fees and incentives?
So let's say the dealership keeps the incentives and charges full price to the church.
Church get10percent, dealership becomes a stake president. Sweet!

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Posted by: MeAgain ( )
Date: May 22, 2016 02:55AM

A 14 seater? Gosh. Pickup trucks are much better for hauling luggage than a Lancer.

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Posted by: dogeatdog ( )
Date: May 22, 2016 03:22AM

they have some sort of deal with subaru.

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Posted by: MeAgain ( )
Date: May 22, 2016 03:34AM

I always thought it was Dodge or Chevrolet. I never saw missionaries in a Ford or Subaru.

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Posted by: dogeatdog ( )
Date: May 23, 2016 01:21AM

Tons of mishies in the midwest in Subaru. My inlaws got a good deal on a subaru too by going through the church because FIL used to do an 'at home mission' for the local mission office as the 'fleet manager' (bike and car) for the missionaries.

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Posted by: Templar ( )
Date: May 22, 2016 08:40AM

In 1961 when stateside missionaries were taken off bicycles and put in cars, they were all identical 2-door seafoam green Nash Rambler Americans which the church acquired in a massive fleet purchase of more than a thousand. George Romney, Mitt's father, then CEO of the company sold Mormon leaders on buying his cars. Romney, of course, made millions on bonuses and company stock.

My mind is not completely clear on this, but as I recall, we were required to pay a small amount in rent each month to have one of the cars. Gas, oil and routine upkeep was our expense. Repairs were covered under warranty since the cars were brand new. I think the church obtained a blanket insurance policy since they owned the cars. We were required to have local drivers licenses. Back then all money for our mission came directly to us from our supporters which, in most cases, was our parents. The church never handled any of our funds.

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Posted by: EXON46 ( )
Date: May 22, 2016 09:55AM

They are low bid. Bought in fleets. Safety was never an issue.

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Posted by: memikeyounot ( )
Date: May 22, 2016 08:33PM

Back in the 80's, when I worked for a VW dealership here in SLC, we sold a number of VW Rabbits to Hertz Rental, IIRC and because I did licensing and paperwork, I got involved in taking the cars out to the airport. We'd take 3-4 at a time and one guy would follow and bring the drivers back. I think over a period of 6 months, we sold maybe 40 Rabbits. They didn't make much money on them.

Towards the end of that process, we got word that the "church" wanted to buy some for mission presidents in the US. There may have been 4-5, not too many, but only the dealership manager, one of those of TBM's who was so racist and dishonest (but he was an active HP in his ward) got to deliver those right to COB. Us peons never got to set foot anywhere near that place :)

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Posted by: downsouth ( )
Date: May 22, 2016 10:32PM

I saw a sale of some tires to the missionaries that came across my computer the other day. My company doesn't sell any bad tires but we definitely have different levels of quality.
Yep, you guessed it. The church put them in the lowest quality available. That's what I want for someone I really care about.
Three things I DO NOT SKIMP ON.
1. Safety for my family.
2. Good Steaks.
3. Good Beer.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: May 22, 2016 10:59PM

my first mission place, Huntington, Indiana, winter:

we had a Romney Rocket, but the heater didn't work; it was Freeze-your-ass-off winter, my comp. was stubborn about not fixing it:

"What's the point of fixing it, we just go somewhere & get out to ... (go tracting, etc)?."

Never mind that we made trips to outlying communities, small farm towns, even rural areas...


Mormon Mentality.

I wonder if George tried to circumvent the dealerships ($) by having the cars delivered directly to LDS, Inc...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/22/2016 11:00PM by GNPE.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: May 22, 2016 11:19PM

I bought a Chevy from a mission in Pennsylvania, late 80's. At that time they were being sold to the church in fleets. Then sold off once the cars reached a certain mileage. I basically bought mine at wholesale, and it had to be a cash sale. Wasn't allowed to finance it. That was a prerequisite to buying one of their used fleet automobiles.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/22/2016 11:21PM by Amyjo.

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Posted by: Lethbridge Reprobate ( )
Date: May 22, 2016 11:42PM

I can remember when it was Rambler Americans! Last time I saw a herd of missionaries was about 10 years ago when there was a parking lot full of Chevy Cavaliers at a Chinese fast food joint in Lethbridge owned by a couple Mormon guys.

RB

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Posted by: messygoop ( )
Date: May 22, 2016 11:44PM

I get shivers every time I think of the Ford Escorts from my mission. The amount of intentional abuse on their poor transmissions! I pitied the souls who may have purchased these cars as a "good deal" because Mormons are so good and trustworthy.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: May 22, 2016 11:50PM

The Chevy Cavalier I had bought from the mission in PA I learned only after buying it, had been in a sideswipe accident while a mishie was driving it.

That was in the days before car faxes and such. A mishie without much driving experience in city traffic most likely. May have been showing off, driving too fast for road conditions, inattention, God only knows.

They are likely treated more poorly than car rentals. Kids starting out on their missions are very young and in the highest cost insurance pool by virtue of their ages alone, for having the highest number of accidents by age and yes, gender.

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Posted by: Doubting Thomas ( )
Date: May 22, 2016 11:52PM

Larry Miller people. Larry Miller.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: May 23, 2016 10:06AM

answer to question (as I believe):

car dealers usually aren't set up to deliver cars long distances; most of the times I've bought one, they insist the buyer drive it first (fleets may be different on this).

What about places long distances from SLC/IMW?
Maybe some 'volunteers' ferry them from the IMW, maybe not, but sort of an interesting question.

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Posted by: Quentin Cook ( )
Date: May 23, 2016 12:00PM

Toyota Corollas have been the standard mishie cars in Australia.They have also recently driven Toyota Camrys and Hyundais.They drove Ford Anglias before Corollas came on the market.

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Posted by: JessupNorth93 ( )
Date: May 23, 2016 12:05PM

For the Edmonton mission, it seems like the closer you are to the city, they drive Subaru Impreza's. But out in the rural areas they have brand new Chevy Colorado trucks. Both still get stuck in the snow. You need a SUV or F350 up here.

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Posted by: scorpionking73 ( )
Date: May 23, 2016 04:01PM

probably from one of their own dealerships they own lot's of other businesses why not car lots?

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Posted by: MeAgain ( )
Date: May 23, 2016 11:26PM

Can anyone ask for the sticker price compared to actual price paid. Many incentives like $5000 cash back. Who gets these incentives?

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