Do any TBM drink coffee secretly? I just wonder how they would go to the store and get it without feeling like they were hiding some secret. I mean how if they got caught etc. Thoughts?

Yes, I know several TBMs who drink coffee--not so secretly. Some stop off at coffee shops, and you'll notice most Starbucks have drive-thrus. The most awkward place to see a TBM is in a Utah State Liquor Store. There, nobody pretends to know anybody. The Boner.

Ah, the state liquor store. You reminded me how when at BYU in late 70's early 80's I used to by booze at the state liquor store with my BYU ID - it had my picture on it - and my out-of-state DL - which did not back then.

Same here Boner...I've seen a couple Mormons in the liquor store....guilty looking as hell

Matthew 15:10-12New King James Version (NKJV)

10 When He had called the multitude to Himself, He said to them, “Hear and understand:

11 Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.”

12 Then His disciples came and said to Him, “Do You know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying?”

Are Mormons offended at this teaching?

It's called 'turning the water into wine.' Gotta Keurig?

Voila!

Seriously, where I grew up in the Morridor Mormon coffee was Postum. Made from barley. It tasted yucky then, and no doubt it still does.



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I know several, and I sometimes facilitate their sinning but their secret is safe with me.

If he's serving instant....maybe not.

Instant coffee is the Devil's brew! Away filthy swig!

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Instant coffee is my friend...

Recipe:

(1) "cup" (more or less) milk (could be cold milk like I use, or could be heated milk; either way), plus:

a few drops of liquid stevia (no calories; no glycemic response), plus:

one teaspoon (could be a heaping teaspoon) of instant coffee.


Let the instant coffee "sit" for a couple of minutes, then stir...let it sit again/stir it again...until the instant coffee is dissolved into the milk/liquid stevia mixture.

Excellent in every way. :)

This sounds like a mocha.

You could probably add flavors to it if you wanted to get creative. That by itself does sound delish.

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Sometimes I do add a teaspoon (or part of a teaspoon) of 365 (Whole Foods house brand) Organic Cocoa Powder (specifically for the extra nutritional factors)...

...but adding the cocoa powder then necessitates a bit of creative "mixing" in the cup (breaking up lumps, etc.)...and the effect on the taste is to make the mixture somewhat bitter.

I don't mind the bitterness, but I certainly cannot say that the taste is IMPROVED. ;)

When I do this, it is so I can optimize nutritional factors, and for me (especially when I add the cocoa powder) I'm not all that concerned about this particular mixture's taste.

With cocoa added, it is drinkable, and that is okay by me (although if I used heated milk, the bitter quality would probably be somewhat buffered).



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One thing that often works for me: with some cocoa or chocolate powders, mix the powder with the other powdered ingredients first. Then add the liquid to that gradually, stirring, until it's sort of a smooth syrupy thing. Then add the rest if the liquid. It can make it easier. In the long run.

But does nothing to change the taste.

Agreed Boner...would rather go without than drink instant.

I bought some Community instant by accident and was shocked to find it isn't half bad.

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I agree 100% and I would rather go without than have to drink instant.

My uncle has been a coffee-drinking, smoking, "jack" mormon for about 50 years. He just had his 70th birthday.

He's held a temple recommend all that time, too.
I used to think it was because they didn't want to lose the ward organist (which he was for years and years), but I think it's just that away from SLC and Happy Valley, (southern Utah), the bishops tend to be a bit more tolerant of jack mormons.

Watch out for those coffee enemas.

Joke all you want -- coffee enemas are great for detoxing your body. They are a regular part of some anti-cancer and anti-AIDS regimens, especially Gerson Therapy.

Right. They are. And proven utterly worthless.

I was staying with TBM friends recently and one of them quietly offered to take me out for a coffee the next morning. I said that was so thoughtful... they said they needed one too.

Next morning... the coffee was great and so was the conversation with my TBM friend.

I stopped going to church, haven't resigned. If there are TBM's drinking coffee, they aren't going to tell me. They probably think I might become active again.

Despite the fact that I'm southern, not a Morridor baby, I was brainwashed from infancy on up that coffee was bad, Bad, BAD... I figured that even the process of making a pot of that stuff was sinful, and if I made a pot to give to somebody else, I would be responsible for facilitating their sin...

For years, I was a Red Cross Disaster Services volunteer. When I was responding to local disasters (like large fires, or local flooding) if they'd ask me to make a pot of coffee, I'd respectfully decline. So the local administrators would just ask somebody else to make the coffee.

I refused to make coffee on national disasters, too, until 1993, when I was sent to St. Louis to respond to the massive, several month long flooding event they had up there. I was working a shelter, and was asked to make coffee for shelter residents. As usual, I declined to make it, citing religious reasons.

That's when I found out my immediate supervisor was also a Mormon, and she very firmly reminded me that we were there to serve ALL disaster victims, not just the LDS ones. She pointed out that she did not drink coffee either, but part of my job as a Red Cross volunteer was to serve the people in whatever way was needed -- and right then, they needed coffee. This supervisor was kind, but firm -- if I wanted to remain a volunteer at her shelter, I would make coffee for the residents. I didn't have to drink it myself, but I needed to make it.

So I did. I didn't know how to make coffee, so my Mormon supervisor taught me how to do it.

Looking back, I was so anal about it.

But back then, I almost think I was surprised when God didn't strike me down right then and there for making a lousy pot of coffee that I didn't even drink myself.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/21/health/coffee-recall-viagra-like-ingredients-trnd/index.html

It'll keep you up all night.

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Yeah, but this is a "natural herbal coffee" which I doubt that any 'coffee purist' would have purchased, myself included. I admit to being a 'coffee snob'.



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Don't drink mate. It'll keep you up all night cleaning the house.

Waiting for BYU Boner to weigh in on this one.