Truth is subjective to the beholder when it comes to religious and moral values v. dogma.
Secular education can be a stumbling block in itself since it indoctrinates children with a social agenda neither parents or religion endorse - that is as subjective as dogmatic religion.
Who controls history shapes the education, indoctrination, and socialization of youth to the degree it rewrites or reframes history to suit its agenda. Children are useful only to the degree they are the most susceptible to this type of programming.
Reality is agnostic, it doesn't care who is observing it.
> > Yours or mine?
Reality is agnostic, it doesn't care who is observing it.
> > Truth is subjective to the beholder when it comes > to religious and moral values v. dogma.
For this to case you have to redefine truth, since truth is the state of being in accordance with reality and reality doesn't care who is beholding it. You should just leave the truth out of this and say that religious and moral values are subjective.
> Secular education can be a stumbling block in > itself since it indoctrinates children with a > social agenda neither parents or religion endorse > - that is as subjective as dogmatic religion.
Secular is the state of having no religious attitude or basis. Secular education by definition cannot indoctrinate since it simply is the lack of religion. In addition who says that a secular education would be contrary to a parental or religious agenda? It could just as well parallel that agenda and not oppose it. Finally I agree that it could be as subjective as a religious education but since religion is not true by any objective measuring stick it is at least free of the foundational error.
> Who controls history shapes the education, > indoctrination, and socialization of youth to the > degree it rewrites or reframes history to suit its > agenda. Children are useful only to the degree > they are the most susceptible to this type of > programming.
jacob Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Amyjo Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Whose reality? > > Reality is agnostic, it doesn't care who is > observing it.
This is so not true. Agnosticism is uncertainty, not knowing. Reality is quite the opposite, for those who are in tune with it. Being in tune with a Higher Power for example, is quite real to those who experience being at harmony with the life force. > > > > > Yours or mine? > > Reality is agnostic, it doesn't care who is > observing it.
You just repeated yourself here. For the sake of repetitiveness?
> > > > > Truth is subjective to the beholder when it > comes > > to religious and moral values v. dogma. > > For this to case you have to redefine truth, since > truth is the state of being in accordance with > reality and reality doesn't care who is beholding > it. You should just leave the truth out of this > and say that religious and moral values are > subjective. > > > Secular education can be a stumbling block in > > itself since it indoctrinates children with a > > social agenda neither parents or religion > endorse > > - that is as subjective as dogmatic religion. > > Secular is the state of having no religious > attitude or basis. Secular education by definition > cannot indoctrinate since it simply is the lack of > religion. In addition who says that a secular > education would be contrary to a parental or > religious agenda? It could just as well parallel > that agenda and not oppose it. Finally I agree > that it could be as subjective as a religious > education but since religion is not true by any > objective measuring stick it is at least free of > the foundational error. > > > Who controls history shapes the education, > > indoctrination, and socialization of youth to > the > > degree it rewrites or reframes history to suit > its > > agenda. Children are useful only to the degree > > they are the most susceptible to this type of > > programming. > > I'm not sure I understand this last point.
When we go along with societal protocol we are taught by our schools and political leaders in governance, we are only useful to them when we are 'good citizens,' by accepting their dogma as what's true and virtuous.
We aren't encouraged to challenge the status quo. We are taught to be cogs in the wheel. Bricks in the mortar. It's otherwise considered an attribute to be team players rather than mavericks for that reason - not to upset the status quo.
The elite want it all - to have their cake and eat it too. We are the proletariat ie, the rapidly diminishing middle class as the oligarchs or wannabe oligarchs like Donald J Trump and his appointees continue clawing their way to the top on yours and my backs. How do you think Vladimir Putin made his over $200 billion nest egg? It wasn't from working for the KGB before becoming president of Russia through his own rigged elections. It was from usurping the wealth of the governed to his personal use.