When my mother was a young woman growing up in a small town in Wyoming, she would ride her horse in the sand hills near her home (which was a log cabin). This was in the 1950's when the Atomic Energy Commission was testing nuclear weapons at the Nevada Test Site. The jet stream shifted during one series of tests and the radioactive fallout cloud blanketed Montana, Wyoming and Idaho.
My mother was out riding her horse and when she came back, her exposed skin was covered with radiation burns from the fallout particles. Her mother was understandably very concerned and took her to the local doctor who (obviously coached by the AEC) told her it was just a sunburn. My mother suffered from cancer of the mouth and it took her ten years to die which she did in 2008.
I did a lot of research on the weapons testing program and was horrified by what I learned. I tried telling my mother how the government lied to her and everyone in the country. I explained to her that since her skin was exposed to the fallout, so were her lungs and her mouth.
126 atmospheric nuclear weapons were detonated in America, each one releasing more radioactivity than the Chernobyl disaster in 1986. She told me that she remembered hearing President Eisenhower on the radio assuring the American people that the country had to do these tests to defend the country against the Soviet threat and that all safety precautions were being taken by the Atomic Energy Commission.
I also learned that Ezra Taft Benson was present during the cabinet meetings and that he assured the President and the other cabinet members that the Mormon people would consider it their patriotic duty to assist in and support the nuclear weapons testing program.
I can't even begin to put into words my feelings towards Ezra Taft Benson and the AEC who helped create one of the largest public health disasters this country ever experienced. The innocent blood of my mother and countless other "downwinders" is on his hands and on those responsible. I will never forgive him or the AEC for what they did. I wish ETB could have seen my mother after numerous chemotherapy treatments and radiation treatments that tried to stop the cancer in her mouth. I hope ETB spends some time in hell where he belongs. Oh wait - I am evil speaking of the Lard's Annointed. I suppose I will spend time in hell too.

My brother died in 2001 from brain cancer, he lived in Brigham City.

His wife learned that there are higher rates of multiple varieties of cancer in Utah. Most of it's attributed to the results of being down-wind from the nuclear test in Nevada.

You’d think these Mormon prophets would have some kind of discernment or something. They can’t even discern that they’re stuck inside a box, sitting on railroad tracks.

Discernment is a myth.

Recently read a obit in the St George news of a woman who succumbed to "downwind cancer" having grown up in the Washington, Utah area.

She was elderly, but had struggled with it for several years - which was directly related to being a product of that era.

ETB was making decisions as they pertained to the Almighty Dollars, not the Almighty. Both during his time as a cabinet member of government. And again, as the Lord's "anointed."

The public was misinformed who were subjected to the after effects of the nuclear testing.

My dad spent the first part of his childhood in a dustbowl town in Wyoming. His mother used to ride horseback over those sandy mountains/hills of long ago. :)

An excellent book to read about nuclear testing in Nevada and it's effects upon the citizens and visitors to Utah:
THE DAY WE BOMBED UTAH by John G. Fuller. Pricey if you can find a copy so check the library....

Not all tears originate in sadness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FgK8Pep_HA

I grew up in the shadow of the Atomic Energy Commission's Arco site - a mere 60 miles from the populated cities of Idaho Falls, Pocatello, and surrounding farming communities.

It is spread out over thousands of acres on the Arco desert. The AEC workers who would drive out there each morning went to top secret facilities where nuclear testing was done, and where the toxic waste is/was stored on site underground.

For all we know some of it is there still. It was thought to drive up the cancer rates in SE Idaho region because of its proximity.

Owned and operated by the federal government. It has federal protection like the national parks do. The nuclear testing during the Cold War era is supposedly no more. Now it does more research for nuclear power for peacetime activities. Or so the story line goes ....

You made it sound so mysterious!!!

If they are hiding stuff (which would not be a big surprise) they, the feds, seem to have been very forthcoming with regard to what has been going on out there. Anyone can look it up on los interwebz!

Here's my favorite story, so far:

"SL-1 (the name of the reactor) Incident and response:

"On December 21, 1960, the reactor was shut down for maintenance, calibration of the instruments, installation of auxiliary instruments, and installation of 44 flux wires to monitor the neutron flux levels in the reactor core. The wires were made of aluminum, and contained slugs of aluminum–cobalt alloy.

"On January 3, 1961, the reactor was being prepared for restart after a shutdown of eleven days over the holidays. Maintenance procedures required that the main central control rod be manually withdrawn a few inches to reconnect it to its drive mechanism.

"At 9:01 p.m., this rod was suddenly withdrawn too far, causing SL-1 to go prompt critical instantly. In four milliseconds, the heat generated by the resulting enormous power excursion caused water surrounding the core to begin to explosively vaporize. The water vapor caused a pressure wave to strike the top of the reactor vessel, causing water and steam to spray from the top of the vessel.

"This extreme form of water hammer propelled control rods, shield plugs, and the entire reactor vessel upward. A later investigation concluded that the 26,000-pound (12,000 kg) vessel had jumped 9 feet 1 inch (2.77 m) and the upper control rod drive mechanisms had struck the ceiling of the reactor building prior to settling back into its original location.

"The spray of water and steam knocked two operators onto the floor, killing one and severely injuring another. One of the shield plugs on top of the reactor vessel impaled the third man through his groin and exited his shoulder, pinning him to the ceiling.

"The victims were Army Specialists John A. Byrnes (age 22) and Richard Leroy McKinley (age 27), and Navy Seabee Construction Electrician First Class (CE1) Richard C. Legg (age 26). It was later established that Byrnes (the reactor operator) had lifted the rod and caused the excursion, Legg (the shift supervisor) was standing on top of the reactor vessel and was impaled and pinned to the ceiling, and McKinley, the trainee who stood nearby, was later found alive by rescuers.

All three men succumbed to injuries from physical trauma; however, the radiation from the nuclear excursion would have given the men no chance of survival even if they had not been killed by the explosion stemming from the criticality accident."

--https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SL-1


If you read this, there was a moment when you really, really flinched!

The people who work there must have security clearances for good reason. It is mysterious to outsiders what really goes on there because of the classified nature of their work. I knew quite a few people who worked there when I lived there. The nuclear scientists and engineers plus naval officers intelligence probably have the highest clearances there, but it's all classified. I lived next door to some of the Navy personnel as a young adult, and dated a couple scientists who worked there. They were transplants from the East Coast. The higher up their positions, the more classified their work.

So, nuclear not nuculer? Don’t run for President.

Nice to know I'm not the only poster who might get cancer from growing up near The Site (Officially it went by the INL the INEL, or the INEEL depending on the year; everybody in Idaho Falls just called it The Site).
In addition to the stored radiation, they still work on nuclear projects. I know they worked on the reactor for the USS Nautilus decades ago; I'm not sure what else they work on nowadays. I never worked there and nobody risked their clearance by talking about it.
Elderolddog, thanks for the info on the SL-1 incident. It's embarrassing that I didn't know about that and grew up near it.

I grew up there too in that timeframe. We were kept in the dark about much of that. As to what it does now, it's still top secret even as the Cold War shifted to more peace time.

It's for sure been shifting the other way since the rise of Putin.

Some of my relatives worked there, and people I knew from TSCC. They did more laypeople jobs that didn't require much specialization except for maybe mechanics, office admin, etc. The specialists were mostly recruits from elsewhere, including Navy personnel.

The drive out to the desert where the site is located is a long dreary stretch of road each way. There's security gates to get through, and guards. Miles from the main road. When people drive by on the highway it isn't visible due to its remote location. That's the way it was designed.

...the gov't will never admit to anything. It is ongoing...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

http://www.ufomind.com/area51/events/waste_lawsuit/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Traub

http://www.rense.com/general67/plumislandlyme.htm

...these asses are putting this new facility in the middle of
America...….in case of any bio-hazard outbreak, this would impact the whole food-producing central US region...idiots!



Why is A New Facility Necessary?
Animal disease research is currently performed at the Plum Island Animal Disease Center (PIADC). However, the aging facility is nearing the end of its lifecycle. It is also too small to meet research needs in relation to emergent and foreign animal disease threats. The NBAF is necessary to meet the requirements of Homeland Security Presidential Directive 9 (HSPD-9). As USDA mission requirements expand to meet these challenges, a new facility with more integration, expanded biocontainment capabilities and larger physical space is necessary to fulfill future needs.


F. that...are we still good?...……..trust the plan?...yeah!

Another good read re: Plum Island: LAB 257 by Michael C Carroll.
For starters, this is where Lyme Disease originated. VERY scary stuff!!!

...yeah, saw that. E. Traub was the Nazi researcher who was heavily involved with the vector-borne research (mosquitos). Gee, how could that have gone wrong? How much longer will people ignore reality?...……..

My father was a physicist. When he was young he was burned by radiation. Even early dental x-rays were noted by him as a danger. I had a client burned by dental x-rays taken with a defective old x-ray machine. My father worked on the A-bomb and was upset that it was used because of the effects of radiation and was very upset as we exposed troops near the testing sites and to the people from fallout. There were even experiments conducted by our country intentionally exposing people to radiation.

Some people don't realize that early breast x-rays actually caused some breast cancers.

Benson was a fool. He help kill innocent Mormons among others.



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