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Posted by: job74 ( )
Date: June 08, 2018 12:25PM

I heard last week that since they re-opened the Jordan River Temple, temple attendance at the Draper Temple has plummeted. We have 10-12 people in our Ward that are Draper Temple workers. There were a few of them Sunday telling us they've been sent home or told not to come in at all as sessions have been poorly attended or closed all together.

Everyone at church was being 'strongly encouraged' to use their TR's.

Maybe someone from the Quorum of 12 will be paying us Sandy/Draper residents a visit to rake us over the coals for not using the temple more. Just like they did in Houston.

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Posted by: cl2 ( )
Date: June 08, 2018 12:27PM

attend their temple, the area they live in, like they do wards? It might be coming!

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: June 08, 2018 01:11PM

LOL! When my formerly TBM brother visited me a few weeks ago he told me about his crisis of faith. During it he went to the Washington D.C. temple weekly for several months. This was back in 2014. He said about a quarter of the time he was the only one in the chapel and session. The other sessions he said there was one or two people. This is during the times when he wasn't working so they should have been prime times.

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Posted by: commongentile ( )
Date: June 08, 2018 01:41PM

Elder Berry, what precipitated your brother's crisis of faith? Did you write about it before on the forum? By any chance is this brother the father of your returned missionary nephew whose emails you used to share?

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: June 08, 2018 01:50PM

I don't have anything written down. I just throw out tidbits of my life here and there.

My eldest brother is the father of the nephew with the horrible English skills, made fun of the locals in The American South where he served, and was effusive in his faith promoting emails.

I'm one of 5 sons. I'm the middle of them. My brother just older than me had a few things happen that coalesced into a crisis of faith.

He sent 2 kids to BYU where they both had mental breakdowns. One of them came out as gay and resigned from the church. Another thing was my brother was struggling to not look at porn occasionally and instead of helping him his leaders just kept piling on the callings. He didn't understand this "help." Lastly, his wife divorced him and he was incredulous that mine has stayed with me with my disbelief.

There is only so much a faithful member can take before their Mormon safety walls start to fall and they feel like their church is more of a prison than a support system.

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Posted by: TheHumanLeague ( )
Date: June 08, 2018 02:18PM

Yeah, the Mormon Way is a crash and burn. Its very
much like GroundHogs Day. Over and over and over.

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Posted by: anono this week ( )
Date: June 08, 2018 04:28PM

maybe they'd rather be out four wheeling? especially when it's so nice outside.

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Posted by: messygoop ( )
Date: June 08, 2018 04:56PM

Here's the kick!

Church leaders complain that members aren't attending and respond by offering less days and sessions. Then endowed members choose not to go because the temple is closed when they are willing to attend. It's the classic self fulfilling prophecy.

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Posted by: messygoop ( )
Date: June 08, 2018 05:07PM

Another tidbit.

In the 1980s, members of the seventy quorum would set quotas for temple goals. These numbers would be shared openly over the pulpit. All type of temple data was discussed.

A few years later after the seventies had been dissolved, ph leaders started harping about low temple attendance. My father, who didn't even hold a TR, asked about the numbers and suggested that each quorum set goals. The ph leader said "Brother Goop that's a sound recommendation. Unfortunately, the temple is no longer keeping track of that data. But we know that attendance is down."

Terrific logic.

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Posted by: kathleen ( )
Date: June 08, 2018 06:49PM

Attendance? Meh!

The temples are only good for land grab, shady contracts, and tax exemption.

If they sit empty, who cares?

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Posted by: Familydestroyers ( )
Date: June 08, 2018 11:48PM

I have a sibling doing double shifts at the AF Temple..not due to over attendance but to the fact nobody willing to take those thankless useless mind numbing sh*t jobs.
I love it..

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Posted by: tumwater ( )
Date: June 09, 2018 12:02AM

Wouldn't it be interesting if someone could access the attendance records for all the wards, temples, etc.

Only thing that would be of greater interest would be the financial records.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: June 09, 2018 07:56AM

I think in some ways, the Mormon church is cheapening the temple experience by building so many of them. On the east coast, it used to be a special experience for Mormons to travel to the Washington, D.C. temple. Now there are a bunch of temples to choose from.

Perhaps TBMS who live south of SLC want to see the newly refurbished Jordan River temple. It's the shiny new toy. Or maybe there are just too many temples in that area right now.

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Posted by: jan ( )
Date: June 09, 2018 11:55AM

summer Wrote:
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> I think in some ways, the Mormon church is
> cheapening the temple experience by building so
> many of them. On the east coast, it used to be a
> special experience for Mormons to travel to the
> Washington, D.C. temple. Now there are a bunch of
> temples to choose from.

Absolutely. The rest of that story is that the new Mc temples look like nothing more than stake centers. I think people miss the grandeur, if not the architectural classicism, of the older, grandiose temples.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: June 24, 2018 08:00AM


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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: June 24, 2018 03:16AM

Yup. When there are only a few temples and the main one took 40 years to build and it a complicated and intricate granite building it has some meaning. When temples are all over and many of them look the same it becomes like a franchise. The church is cheapening the temple illusion.

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Posted by: lachesis ( )
Date: June 13, 2018 12:00AM

having a temple down the street has lost its novelty. Time for an Alpine temple.

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Posted by: baura ( )
Date: June 13, 2018 05:49AM

Want to attend your child's wedding? They catch up on at least 6
months worth of tithing.

You can have temples return a profit without having them filled
up. If you can get half-a-year's tithing out of one attendance,
that goes a long way toward making it cost-effective.

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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: June 24, 2018 03:20AM

baura Wrote:
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> Want to attend your child's wedding? They catch
> up on at least 6
> months worth of tithing.
>
> You can have temples return a profit without
> having them filled
> up. If you can get half-a-year's tithing out of
> one attendance,
> that goes a long way toward making it
> cost-effective.


Without temple weddings the tithing flow would be way down.

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Posted by: dinosaurprincess ( )
Date: June 13, 2018 09:46AM

Nearest temple to me is Timp, and a lady on the ward RS FB page was pleading with the sisters to go as she had just finished a session where she did 4 names with no one else in line. There were some likes but no comments. Looks like it's slow everywhere!

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Posted by: kizzie ( )
Date: June 13, 2018 04:13PM

Heard the same about the London temple,poor attendance,Preston much the same especially during week days.

I think that as wards shrink and members are given multiple callings they don't have the time or energy to travel a few hundred miles for a sleep session.

Before I resigned I was a counsellor in RS,Primary Teacher,Visiting Teacher and Family History Consultant,the ward had a FH facility and I did Tuesdays 10am-3pm,Thursday 7pm-9-30pm load folk like that and watch them implode.

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