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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 13, 2018 11:50PM

Because you can't make this stuff up.

"A Utah man flew a small plane into his own house early Monday just hours after he had been arrested for assaulting his wife in a nearby canyon where the couple went to talk over their problems, authorities said.

The pilot, Duane Youd, died. His wife and a child who were in the home got out and survived despite the front part the two-story house being engulfed in flames, Payson police Sgt. Noemi Sandoval said."

Just another day in the Morridor. Sad. Really sad. Hope the wife and child are able to rebuild their lives.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/utah-man-crashes-plane-own-house-after-assaulting-wife-police-n900236

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: August 13, 2018 11:56PM

Will he go to the celestial kingdumb ?

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 13, 2018 11:59PM

He did not pass go, and landed directly in spirit prison.

Just a hunch.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: August 14, 2018 12:00AM

If work for the dead really was a thing (a real thing) this guy, if he's mormon, ought to be posthumously (or posthumorously) excommunicated. Not only did he commit suicide, he was attempting murder. No CK for you!

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Posted by: cl2 ( )
Date: August 14, 2018 12:01AM

I didn't see the news this evening, but heard the reports up until 12:30 p.m. They were gradually adding on. Woke up at 4:30 to the top story being a plane flying into a home, but they didn't know the whole story.

I'm sure there is much more to come.

I find it extremely tragic.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 14, 2018 12:04AM

His wife is incredibly lucky he didn't take her and the child with him when he did what he did.

That seemed to be his goal, but fortunately for her he struck out.

It is very tragic. She and their family will be living with the trauma including PTSD, for the rest of her days.

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Posted by: GNPE1 ( )
Date: August 14, 2018 12:19AM

Does everyone notice the difference in the Seattle airport plane-out-of-control story?


baggage handler (most likely NOT LDS) steals & crashes plane but into the forest on a small, isolated island in Puget Sound...

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 14, 2018 05:28AM

That young man didn't intend to hurt anyone. He was sorry for what he'd done, but felt broken before the crash.

He took the plane to a remote island by order of traffic controllers, after the 'joyride' was over.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 14, 2018 09:04AM

It was a small 78-seat passenger airliner the Seattle man/baggage handler flew solo.

If he'd wanted to do serious damage to a building or residential area, he could have. That wasn't his objective.

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: August 14, 2018 02:13AM


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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 14, 2018 05:34AM

Just real people living in lala land. It would seem the marriage was over before the plane flew into their home. The man had a violent temper, fueled by alcohol.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: August 14, 2018 07:08AM

The "small plane" was a Cessna Citation six passenger business jet, which cost in the vicinity of $2 to $3 million. This was not a 2 or 4 seater prop plane plane with a top speed in the 150 mph range. It was heavy for a small plane, and could do upwards of 500 mph.

The guy was a pilot for a business in Spanish Fork. He clearly wanted to go out causing as much destruction as possible. His clipping the house next door probably forced the nose of the plane down, reducing the damage it did to his house, though the house is damaged so much that authorities have to be cautious about removing the plane for fear of house collapse. The clip, along with sheer luck, probably saved the wife and son.

The Trib ran an article a few months ago about how for the percentage of murders that are domestic partner murders, Utah is well above the national average. In a culture where women are second class, that's what squeezes out around the edges with the nut cases.



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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: August 14, 2018 08:04AM

Well, that was a marriage that was not going well. I'm glad his wife and her child survived.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 14, 2018 09:08AM

It really is no small miracle he didn't cause more mayhem and destruction than he did.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: August 14, 2018 08:45AM

I guess he bailed on the marriage, but not out of the plane. Da plane, da plane!!!

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: August 14, 2018 09:58AM

Now mormons want to buy that house because it is pre-disastered.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPqP8lQhLso

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 14, 2018 10:11AM

I wonder if their homeowner's insurance is going to cover that?

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: August 14, 2018 01:00PM

If an intentional tort can be proven, it can give the insurance company an out.

But the wife is also on the deed, and coverage extends to her interests. Hard to believe that a carrier would try to leave her high and dry.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 14, 2018 01:24PM

She or her homeowners insurance may have a lawsuit against the husband's employer for his taking off in a company jet to bomb their house like he did.

So the homeowner's insurance may seek to be indemnified by the company's insurer. And the wife can seek a megabucks lawsuit against the company for her husband flying their plane into their house - even if he was off his rocker at the time and not on company time. He was in one of their planes that he was hired to fly when he intentionally and with malice tried to commit murder. You can't try a dead man. But she sure can sue up the wazoo his employer. After all the dust settles.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/14/2018 01:25PM by Amyjo.

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Posted by: flutterbypurple ( )
Date: August 14, 2018 10:57AM

This mornings news article is all about some of his surviving children saying their father was hurting and he was not a bad guy.
I get he was hurting in some way, his marriage looked to be over.
I don't get how flying a plane into his own house trying to kill his wife does not make him bad. Would their story be different if their mother and brother had died in the incident?
How does the mother and brother feel about other siblings defending him at this point. Adding more hurt onto what already happened?
This sounds like pure revenge on his part.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 14, 2018 11:11AM

He was definitely homicidal when he did the dastardly deed.

Maybe he wasn't rotten to the core. But he had some serious mental health issues, not the least of which was the loss of control he had over his spouse, and anger. Possibly depression.

Add alcohol to the mix, and that makes it even more of a deadly combination.

He was an abusive maniac who freaked out.

The children and wife are left with survivors guilt. In addition to the normal grieving the loss of a loved one.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: August 14, 2018 01:16PM

Plus, a disinterested third party reported him to the police for assaulting his wife. I don't think that a random stranger is going to call the police unless there is something truly concerning. One of the news articles also said that it was his second arrest for domestic assault *this year.* How about previous years?

So that, plus flying the plane into the house, endangering his wife and her son -- no, not a nice guy.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 09:52AM

According to Doud's employer, Doud had the digital access code to the hangar the airplane was stored in at the airport where he took off to fly it into his home Sunday morning.

He was their only company pilot, who had earned the trust of his employer. He was described as "rock solid."

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Posted by: presleynfactsrock ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 12:20PM

Was this guy a member of the Mormoncult? If so, chalk this bizarre incident up to just one more of the crazy deaths, injuries, and/or property damage that seems to occur out of proportion in Mormon life.

The Lafferty Brothers mayheim, Mark Hoffman's forgeries and murders, the Mountain Meadows Massacre, a man loosing his sex membrane because he had pissed of another Mormon, Joseph Smith needing to have a band of FIFTY MEN ready to commit even murder when he gave the orders......and it goes on and on and.....

on. In the past and present.

Oh, the church certainly is a positive force for good....or NOT!

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 12:23PM

Yes he was LDS. It looks like he just snapped.

"He was an active member of the LDS Church, Eagle Scout, and was involved in the Young Men’s Program and Scouts. He loved them and they adored him."

http://www.walkerspanishfork.com/obit/duane-l-rhedd-youd/

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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 03:38PM

People are starting to snap more. Most Americans live paycheck to paycheck and have lot’s of debt. The cost of living has increased but what the average person gets paid hasn’t. It’s an environment that puts lot’s of stress on people and their marriages. People snap when they have no hope. They don’t see a happy future. They just want out of this life and some want to hurt others or get some revenge on the way out and some have no desire to hurt anyone but they are done with life themselves.

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Posted by: GNPE1 ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 12:51PM

yet another LDS related incident that I'll never experience.


too bad the LDS church doesn't moderate members & use caution to reduce erratic choices - conduct from (what are thought to be) TBMs?


Seems like TBMs get a PASS on lots of harmful choices-actions, doesn't it?

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 01:22PM

Or it may be being TBM creates an underlying inner tension that is unresolved conflict keeping people like this Rhedd guy (Duane Youd,) in self-destructive mode instead of reparation. The cognitive dissonance of being Mormon is cause for further mayhem in the inner soul, that manifests itself outwardly in destructive behavior. If he'd killed his wife and her 24-year old son, he'd have been fine with that.

However, he was very careful to avoid power lines and neighboring houses. What a judgment call he made (not!) He literally tipped right over the edge.

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Posted by: GNPE1 ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 01:30PM

excellent points!

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Posted by: StillAnon ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 01:45PM

This was not about mormonism. His wife was cheating on him. He called is 2 biological children, earlier and told them to leave the house before he took off. Cheating wives can drive a man to drink and do stupid things. There's blame on both sides.

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Posted by: GNPE1 ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 02:01PM

(sorry if this is derailing)


Putting the church ahead of your spouse/family/children is a form of Cheating that MANY lds are guilty of....


just sayin'

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Posted by: StillAnon ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 02:47PM

Putting "the" church above all else is a requirement, a covenant,and necessary for a temple recommend. It's the cornerstone of the cult. So is a patriarchal lifestyle and belief.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 07:01PM

What a guy. To call his own children to tell them to get out of the house, so he wouldn't murder them.

Yeah, you know how to call them, Still Anon.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 02:15PM

What really bothers me besides the sheer near tragedy of the wife and her adult child (not the depraved husband,) is that Doud flew rescue flights for people who needed to get to the hospital quickly. He was a pilot used for saving lives, not taking them.

His brain malfunctioned. No matter what else he was going through, he could have exercised enough self-control to stop himself from attempting murder with his company jet. He knew right from wrong. He wasn't an imbecile.



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Posted by: StillAnon ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 06:41PM

His brain didn't "malfunction". His wife cheated on him, again, and he couldn't handle the disrespect of the priesthood.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 06:56PM

By all accounts, he was a domestic abusive jerk who lacked self-control. He was charged with assaulting his wife in April, and again on the day he tried to murder her.



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Posted by: StillAnon ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 07:04PM

Again. His wife was committing adultery. That could cause him (or any husband) to be a jerk. Stop defending cheaters Amyjo.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 07:49PM

Please provide the link/s to go with your allegations that justify murder and homicide in the name of adultery.

Sheesh. And if she was? That calls for a divorce. Not to be beaten or murdered.

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Posted by: StillAnon ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 07:52PM

Gee Amyjo. You of all people should know that adultery should result in a woman being stoned to death. Or put to death. You know, the Old Testament, and all.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 07:57PM

Amyjo Wrote:
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> Please provide the link/s to go with your
> allegations that justify murder and homicide in
> the name of adultery.
>

Just for the fun of it:

Leviticus 20:10: “If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife— with the wife of his neighbour—both the adulterer and the adulteress are to be put to death.”

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 08:02PM

There is no proof the wife was committing adultery other than slander by stillanon.

And if she was, it is not cause for the death penalty.

As for homicide, that calls for the death penalty in Utah. Only Youd beat the authorities to it. Stupid idiot. He only killed himself, and saved the taxpayers having to do it. Plus, he spared his wife through no fault of his own.

He really was a dufus.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 08:04PM

Hey, hey, hey!! I was just answering your request for a link that specified the death penalty for adultery!

What did I win?

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Posted by: StillAnon ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 08:09PM

Nothing. Amyjo doesn't acknowledge facts that go against her thoughts. Even if they're the cornerstone of her religion.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 08:12PM

Stoning people is not the cornerstone of my religion. It may be yours however.

You still haven't provided any link for your allegations.



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Posted by: StillAnon ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 08:22PM

You've touted your Jewish heritage and belief many times here Amyjo. I just kind of figured you knew what you were talking about. Obviously not. But, for your reference;

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/865-adultery

You're welcome.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 08:35PM

You still haven't provided one iota of evidence the wife was an adulteress.

Even if she were, it does not justify her crazy dead husband's antics.

Which btw, has nada to do with my personal beliefs.



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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 08:11PM

I meant current link.

Not 2,000 years old.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 08:27PM

You just put up a post where you eloquently adored a 2000 year old scripture, from the book of psalms. You said that it has stayed with to this day. I supposed you meant that despite it's old age, it was relevant.

And now another scripture isn't... You get to pick and chose, just you.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 08:38PM

Wrong thread, old dog. Different subject.

You pick your verses.

I pick mine.



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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 07:57PM

Nothing his wife did or didn't do warranted what Duane Youd did.

He was maniacal. With his temper he should've been locked up long ago, with his first arrest of spousal abuse.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 09:12PM

>>His wife cheated on him...

You know this, how?

What IS established is that he was arrested twice for assaulting his wife.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 10:39PM

The charges speak for themselves.

He figured he was going to get away with murder by crashing the plane. It was more like poetic justice.

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Posted by: Chicken N. Backpacks ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 04:39PM

One look at his photo on the news and I thought: "Not Mormon."

Unfortunately, TBM's will say "This is what happens when you stray from the Gospel."

We will never know if the Church™ had an impact on this outcome.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 06:12PM

His obit says he was a very active Mormon.

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Posted by: Free Man ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 08:20PM

TBMs: When good things happen to Mormons, it is due to Mormonism

Exmos: When bad things happen to Mormons, it is due to Mormonism

Same kind of thinking. People believing what they want to believe.

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: August 15, 2018 08:44PM

I doubt his being Mormon caused him to become suicidal. It probably didn't help any either.

It would have added to the strain of their already tenuous marriage. They'd been divorced before.

It's the Mormon idea of having the perfect marriage, perfect family, perfect life that gets shattered when the reality doesn't live up to the image/facade.

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