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Posted by: 3X ( )
Date: September 06, 2018 03:37PM

"New York attorney general’s office has issued subpoenas to every Catholic diocese in the state"


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2018/09/06/new-york-joins-the-list-of-states-investigating-sex-crimes-committed-by-catholic-priests/

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: September 06, 2018 03:41PM

Yes.

I put this in my other thread on the structural problems that cause a constant stream of abuse and coverups in the RCC. The news is important and deserves its own thread.

Thank you.



I hope it's okay with you if I include the link to that other discussion here. https://www.exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,2149649



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/06/2018 03:42PM by Lot's Wife.

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Posted by: 3X ( )
Date: September 06, 2018 03:48PM

It is _always_ permissible and encouraged to cross-reference related threads.

:)

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Posted by: Concerned Citizen 2.0 ( )
Date: September 07, 2018 12:18PM

...currently, there are a 8 states (to include PA), that are in the early investigative phases regarding Catholic Diocese child sex abuse. Here's where we are currently;


1. Various states are already launching individual probes following the Pennsylvania grand jury report.
2. Senior Church leadership are deflecting, accusing, and redirecting, then publicly falling silent.
3. Once a sufficient number of states have done so - a joint effort would begin.
4. The joint effort would then involve the US Justice Department.
5. That federal involvement could result in something like a RICO investigation.
6. The Vatican is MOST fearful of US Federal government involvement; given Trumps recent EO regarding human rights abuses/asset seizure.
7. Wuerl, Cupich, and perhaps others, are laying escape plans for an if/when scenario.

...in addition, there is now an ongoing Vatican-orchestrated campaign to smear and silence Vigano, as being unreliable; not to be trusted or believed. Don't forget Vigano was instrumental in exposing the Vatican Bank scandal, which also led to the exposure of Vatican(Rome), in-house sex scandals...."drug-fueled sex orgies", if I recall the original verbiage. Yeah, he knows where the bodies are buried.

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Posted by: Concerned Citizen 2.0 ( )
Date: September 07, 2018 05:15PM

...Update: We are waiting for state #8 (Florida) to formally announce shortly. Numbers will probably rise as more credibility is lost by the Church.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: September 07, 2018 05:32PM

The PA attorney general said that he had been approached by 26 states about the criminal process he led.

Having lost most of Europe and on the verge of losing the Anglophonic countries, it may not be too much of a stretch to say that the Catholic Church will soon be a developing-world phenomenon--much like the Mormon Church and for many of the same reasons.

Tyrannical, abusive organizations thrive in places characterized by poverty, misogyny, poor education, and minimal access to the free flow of information. Ireland is a harbinger.

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Posted by: Justin ( )
Date: September 07, 2018 06:24PM

This Pope should retire.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: September 07, 2018 07:20PM

Agreed.

He's been in the job five years and has announced several reform initiatives, conspicuously absent from which has been anything to stop the sexual abuse of children and the coverups.

He has shown his priorities.

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Posted by: Concerned Citizen 2.0 ( )
Date: September 07, 2018 11:55PM

...most folks don't appreciate the scope and reach of the Vatican's Security apparatus; which has been compared to Mossad or MI6 in it's world-wide asset placement. When you also throw in Cardinals, Bishops, Priest, Rectors...those operating Church-owned LLC's, Sole Corporations, etc.; meaning those charged with reporting upstream, it is massive. As in LDS world, upper-level officials all hold special clearances for access to otherwise classified Church records; member data, financial, and internal memos dealing with criminal and potential criminal conduct by members, to include the upper-echelon gate-keepers. Think "Blackmail."

So when the Vatican orders up it's "goon squad" to go after you, you better watch your back...

https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/the-hunt-for-vigano-vatican-spies-tracking-whistleblower

A long, older read, but shows Vatican/CIA connections. Not surprisingly, Vatican played both sides during WWII, helping top-drawer Nazis escape Europe via the famous "ratline network".

http://churchandstate.org.uk/2013/04/cia-and-the-vaticans-intelligence-apparatus/

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Posted by: Amyjo ( )
Date: September 08, 2018 12:11AM

While the Pope fiddles, Rome burns. Kavanaugh's not afraid of turning up some heat.

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Posted by: 3X ( )
Date: September 09, 2018 10:12AM

This article mentions an RCC sexual-abuse case circa 1997 - 3 years or so before the Boston revelations. The case may not have had national exposure - or perhaps I simply wasn't listening:

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/news/2018/09/08/top-lay-official-dallas-diocese-worked-victims-church-abuseretires


Even the Boston revelations were slow to develop national impact, because, I think, no one except the victims and their immediate families could conceive of RCC priests indulging in the bestial behaviors they did, in fact, commit.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/09/2018 10:17AM by 3X.

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