I have an idea for what to call the church now: Not-the-Mormon-church or NMC for short. I took my inspiration from the old Jim Henson Dinosaurs show where the baby always yelled "Not the Momma! Not the Momma!"

I commented on an answer on Quora the other day, where some TBM claimed there never was a Mormon church.

I pointed out to him the millions his not-the-mormon-church spent on ad campaigns, movies, "I'm a mormon" ads, etc. not that long ago, where they called themselves the Mormon church (after giving the full long name, usually).

He came back with something about that never being "official," the term was invented by detractors, and since the current "prophet" says it takes away from Jesus, it's not to be used and never was.

They're so deep in denial and dishonesty. Sigh.

The church should be called The Church of Gaslight, or The Gaslighting Church. That is what all that denying is.

I went to an extended-family Christmas party, for the adults, in Provo, and about half of us have left the cult. Someone made a comment about me not being a Mormon anymore, and I laughed and said, "NONE of us are Mormons anymore."

Someone posted on RFM that we now have something in common with Mormons--we are ALL "ex-Mormons"! I think it's funny.

"Not the Mormon Church" is a good name for it. The members are "not-Mormons." This insults my friends, though, whom I refer to as not-Mormons.

I don't like to categorize us as "ex-Mormons", because Mormonism no longer defines us.

I don't like the term "never-Mormon", either. In my new world, one can not be categorized according to whether or not they ever were Mormons. We are whatever we need to define ourselves in a particular group: a "newbie" on the internet, on Facebook or not on Facebook, a Freshman, a mother, or whatever. Here on RFM, we are atheists, Catholics, humanists, Jewish, or whatever, and whatever that is, is it NOT MORMON.

Yesterday, a Mormon said he was a member of what used to be the Mormon church.

I like that, because he still used the word Mormon.

Not the Mormon church is brief and catchy, and uses the word Mormon. I like it.

I think they should accept on a group level the word Mormon. Nelson shouldn't have a problem with a group identity as long as their group doesn't use it. How about "NAM" for individual Mormons? "I'm Not A Mormon." I'm a NAM. I spent time as a NAM. NAM I am. I will wear green aprons and sign with my hand I'm NAM.

Or Mormons could take a different tact and insist only they can refer to themselves as "Mormon."


A Salt Lake City State of Mind (The Soap Hip Hop)
By Mad4It
A Rap
Yeah, yeah
Ayo, Mormons, it's time.
It's time, Mormons (aight, Mormons, begin).
Straight out the yummy dungeons of rap.
The heart drops deep as does my apple.
I never shoot, 'cause to shoot is the second cousin of grapple.
Beyond the walls of goblins, life is defined.
I think of Salvation when I'm in a Salt Lake City state of mind.
Hope the chapel got some pineapple.
My snapple don't like no dirty rappel.
Run up to the grapple and get the dapple.
In a Salt Lake City state of mind.
What more could you ask for? The tiny heart?
You complain about Gentiles.
I gotta love it though - somebody still speaks for the chart.
I'm rappin' to the soap,
And I'm gonna move your rope.
Wild, crazy, divorced, like a love
Boy, I tell you, I thought you were a truelove.
I can't take the Gentiles, can't take the chord.
I woulda tried to wash I guess I got no board.
I'm rappin' to the rope,
And I'm gonna move your soap.
Yea, yaz, in a Salt Lake City state of mind.
When I was young my second cousin had an art.
I waz kicked out without no chart.
I never thought I'd see that start.
Ain't a soul alive that could take my second cousin's counterpart.
A big light is quite the insight.
Thinking of Salvation. Yaz, thinking of Salvation (Salvation).

https://www.song-lyrics-generator.org.uk/rap/

16 million plus ex Mormons.......what a hoot!!!!!

The Church of Real Estate of Latter Day Saints

That's great, but for one thing: the Mormons/ TMC (The Moron Church) would call it NMC (too), for the New Moroni Church.

M@t