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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: January 09, 2019 06:17PM

While searching for information on Brigham Young I came across what looked like a recent death of what could be a relation. My own grandmother was a great granddaughter of Young. The name Card stuck out because my great grandmother's mother's maiden name was Card.

https://www.chattanoogan.com/2018/12/12/381409/Brigham-Young-s-Great-Granddaughter.aspx

I logged into lds.org and found out she was this guy's daughter.

https://www.myheritage.com/names/joseph_card

My great grandmother Zina Young Brown (born Card) was his sister. And my great grandmother only had 2 full brothers though this from the above site shows there were more half siblings. I'm sure you all know how that happens in Mormonism Historically.

"Joseph was baptized on month day 1885, at baptism place, Utah.
He had 14 siblings: Zina Young Brown (born Card), Orsen Rega Card and 12 other siblings."

And there is also this. I don't know why it bothers me so much that they put my grandmother's "Preferred" marriage as the one she got a divorce from but it does. It isn't like her second marriage was really good but she got a temple divorce and another temple sealing yet the infamous polygamist gets preference in the Mormon recording.

Rulon Timpson Jeffs
1909–2002

K2WT-131
​​
Marriage: 1 June 1934
Salt Lake City, Salt Lake, Utah, United States


Zola Grace Brown
1911–2005

KWC1-QQV

*Preferred*



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/09/2019 06:17PM by Elder Berry.

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Posted by: angela ( )
Date: January 09, 2019 06:21PM

3rd cousin?

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Posted by: Lowpriest ( )
Date: January 09, 2019 06:54PM

The child of your GG grand mother (your grandparent) and the child of her brother would be first cousins.

The child of your grand parent would be 1st cousins, once removed. Your parent would be twice removed. You would be 1st cousins, three times removed.

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Posted by: logged out now ( )
Date: January 09, 2019 09:34PM

If the great grandparents (G/GPs) were sibs, then their kids (Zola and your *grandparent*) would be 1st cousins. [Common great-great grandparents (GG/GPs)]

Then she and your *parent* would be 1st cousins, once removed.

Therefore, you and Zola would be 1C-2R.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: January 10, 2019 11:45AM

Zola was my grandmother.

I think the Chattanooga woman was my First Cousin Twice Removed?

https://wehavekids.com/family-relationships/What-Is-a-Second-Cousin-Twice-Removed-Chart-Explains-All

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Posted by: logged out now ( )
Date: January 10, 2019 01:26PM

Still 1C-2R.

your great-great grandparent, her grandparent (common ancestor)
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|-------------------------|
your great-grandmother & her father* = sibs [*your G/GM's bro]
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|-----------------|
your grandparent & her = 1st cousins
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your parent & her = 1st cousins, once removed
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you & her = 1st cousins, twice removed

The posters claiming 3R are adding an extra generation, confusing one of the "G"s as "great" instead of "grand."

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Posted by: reinventinggrace ( )
Date: January 10, 2019 05:21AM

Warning -- Topic drift alert!!!

I can't speak for the how many times removed terminology (obviously, the English language needs some better terms for cousins, IMO).

But, I just wanna say, in your x-cousin y-removed's obit, the Chattanoogan newspaper used the term:
"The-Church-of-Jesus-Christ-of-Latter-Day-Saints"
four times in five paragraphs.

The new style guide must be working!

RG

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Posted by: fossilman ( )
Date: January 10, 2019 09:50AM

"Joseph was baptized on month day 1885, at baptism place, Utah.
He had 14 siblings: Zina Young Brown (born Card), Orsen Rega Card and 12 other siblings."

Orson Scott Card is apparently the grandson of Orson Rega Card.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: January 10, 2019 11:46AM

I know Orson and I are related, just not how we are.

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Posted by: Aloysius ( )
Date: January 10, 2019 12:28PM

OSC and I are third cousins once removed.

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Posted by: lisadee ( )
Date: January 10, 2019 12:12PM

1st cousin, thrice removed

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