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Posted by: cricket ( )
Date: February 19, 2019 03:35PM

"Another source of differences in the accounts of different witnesses is the different meanings that different persons attach to words. We have a vivid illustration of this in the recent media excitement about the word salamander in a letter Martin Harris is supposed to have sent to W. W. Phelps over 150 years ago. All of the scores of media stories on that subject apparently assume that the author of that letter used the word salamander in the modern sense of a ‘tailed amphibian.’

One wonders why so many writers neglected to reveal to their readers that there is another meaning of salamander, which may even have been the primary meaning in this context in the 1820s. That meaning, which is listed second in a current edition of Webster’s New World Dictionary, is ‘a spirit supposed to live in fire’ (2d College ed. 1982, s.v. ‘salamander’). Modern and ancient literature contain many examples of this usage.

A spirit that is able to live in fire is a good approximation of the description Joseph Smith gave of the angel Moroni: a personage in the midst of a light, whose countenance was ‘truly like lightning’ and whose overall appearance ‘was glorious beyond description’. As Joseph Smith wrote later, ‘The first sight [of this personage] was as though the house was filled with consuming fire’. Since the letter purports only to be Martin Harris’s interpretation of what he had heard about Joseph’s experience, the use of the words white salamander and old spirit seem understandable." - Dallin Oaks ("1985 CES Doctrine and Covenants Symposium," pages 22-23)

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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: February 19, 2019 04:46PM

Ha ha!

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Posted by: Intelligent Donkey ( )
Date: February 20, 2019 11:41PM

No smart-ass responses yet. I'll try:

Right color but there ain't enough Viagra in the world for that to be Dallin's salamander!

Dallin, he looks just like you!

Wendy runs away when she sees my salamander!

Does he work for Kirton McConkie?

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: February 21, 2019 10:43AM

Wendy hopes that Oaks will keep his salanander in his pants.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: February 21, 2019 12:24PM

Wendy is disappointed that Rusty's salamander isn't as big as Oaks.

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Posted by: perky ( )
Date: February 21, 2019 12:58PM

And a horse is a tapir

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: February 21, 2019 03:19PM

And a steel sword is a club with bits of metallic rocks stuck into it.

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Posted by: wanderingkolobian ( )
Date: February 21, 2019 09:00PM

Are you suggesting ol' Russ is hung like a tapir??

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Posted by: pollythinks ( )
Date: February 21, 2019 04:28PM

Who wouldn't be?

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Posted by: dogblogger ( )
Date: February 21, 2019 10:40PM

someone fed that white and delightsome salamander some Viagra

time to restore polyandry!

Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/21/2019 10:41PM by dogblogger.

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