boring! Mass is in English now though so that's better than it was when no one could understand anything. But I guess that's the whole point. The father does preach a short little ditty they call a sermon which may be helpful, and they do sometimes sing old 60's rock songs as part of their sacred music, which certainly woke me up when I heard it.
Last time I went there was no dress code, but wearing pants is good. I wouldn't go in shorts or a tanktop. anything else should be fine.
I love the Latin mass,but then I have a degree in Latin. As for the dress code,it is pretty much whatever you like. You will see shorts, tanks, jeans, tees etc as well as dressier clothes. Few women wear dresses.I would dress casually and not show a lot of skin at first as parishes do have personalities. Better to be a bit more conservative until you get he was lay of the land.
The head covering rule ended in the 60s with Vatican 11.Catholics do dress much more casually than Mormons in church, but they know how to behave. It is much quieter and yelling kids.are usually taken out unlike in the Mormon church where people talk during the service while their kids run around wild.
Wow, anyone can just pop in the church while a private wedding is going on? I wouldn’t like that. I guess I can use that as a reason I never tried the Catholic Church. Well, I went once with a friend , a long time ago, back in the dinosaur days, I never liked it when I heard that priest didn’t have to report felons who show up for confession.
>>Wow, anyone can just pop in the church while a private wedding is going on?
Technically yes, but I've never seen it done. That would be true for any mainstream Christian church. Just be prepared to answer the question, "Bride or groom?" The usher is asking in order to determine on which side of the church to seat you. And you would want to be dressed appropriately -- church weddings tend to be dressy. In NYC it is not unusual for passersby to pause on the sidewalk to see the bride emerge from the church.
Hockeyrat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Wow, anyone can just pop in the church while a > private wedding is going on?
Not a good idea in my experience.
> I never liked it when I heard that priest > didn’t have to report felons who show up for > confession.
A confessional is like going to your doctor or shrink, or lawyer, they don't have the right to tell everyone what you told them without your permission. In fact, if none of these had confidentiality, no one would visit them.
There's a catholic church near my house. One of these days I'm going to attend a service. Then every month, check out another church in my local area. I'm not interested in any religion, but I'm interested in seeing slices of my community, who are they, what are they like? I figure churches would be good for that. There's a mormon church not far away from me too!
I've been to services in at least a dozen different religious traditions, including a few protestant churchs, the RCC, Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, Jewish, Moslem, Hindu, Buddhist, Taoist (as much as one can), Shinto, Hare Krishna, Native American, African animist, UU, even some New Age stuff.
I find them fascinating culturally, historically, religiously. There is a lot to learn about people from such events.
Why get out of one restrictive, controlling, money and time sucking religion just to go into another one?
Surely, if you are bored, library book? if looking for friends, try meetup or gaming groups or college groups or if you are just wanting to spend time, going to a gym or a movie or? Anything better than letting some church get its claws into you again???
Just my opinion here, I wish you all the best but had to say it.
He said he is going out of curiosity and is not looking for a church. Even if he were searching, it is his business. People have different needs. Catholicism doesn't have to be restrictive. Many members are cafeteria types and do fine.
And my point was that it is his business what he does to relieve his boredom. He asked about the dress code,not whether he should go or for alternative ways to entertain himself. Some people enjoy studying and visiting other churches even if they don't believe. I am one of them.
Yes, but modesty in Catholicism is not the same thing as modesty in Mormonism. For instance it's okay in American Catholic churches to wear a sleeveless dress or a dress above the knees. You would be expected to dress similar to if you were going to work in an office -- not out to a nightclub.
I tried the Catholic church for a spell until I discovered they weren't super thrilled about homo's invading their turf. Their personalities are generally much better then the Mormons. You can drink yourself silly, smoke, cuss, and get away with any nonsense just as long as you confess your sins. Tithing(optional) is a plate pass around and they don't keep records... unless your a huge donor and want a tax break. Dress code in Arizona is casual. Shorts are fine. Did hate it when the were doing baptisms as it stretched the services way beyond one hour... same with converts... services boring as hell... but talks and sermons kept to a minimal. I found that the die hards... especially the older females look like they need to take a good dump... constipated as all hell and uptight... but since the majority are cafeteria Catholics you are surrounded by people that just want you to be a part of the church... they don't try to control your every thought and movement. And I can honestly say I was never manipulated by any of the clergy which after a year I became pretty familiar with... That was also my last venture with any religion... They pulled the last nail that was holding me down and now I am free... just a personal choice that I finally realized I was being spoon fed the same BS but in a softer and gentler way.
Shylock, unless things have changed, Catholic baptisms are done privately, with the priest and the child's family. They are not a part of the church service. And there are no "talks," but there is a sermon delivered by the priest.
As for LGBTQ, it probably depends on where you are attending. I saw gay couples attending services in NYC without any trouble.
Sometimes, there's more than one child being baptized at a Catholic baptism especially where there's a shortage of priests. That's how it was when my niece was baptized, she wasn't the only child, so it was our family and the families of the other children.
When he complained about the long service, I thought of the Easter vigil where adults are baptized and confirmed.Thae confirmations includes adults who were baptized as babies but never confirmed If it is a large church you can have a lot of baptisms followed by eve more confirmations. Added to the extra readings etc, it can go on for as much as three hours.
At the Franciscan Catholic church in Phoenix I saw quite a few babies get dunked. It was done on the tail end of service and you never knew when it was going to take place. I remember a friend I was going with would look at me and say "I hope they are not doing the christening thing today!" From what I understand you can choose to have a private ceremony, but the church prefers the whole congregation to be involved in the event these days.
As for the LGBQT I never had a problem per se. The priest had to read a declaration from His most holy one on high that stated "practicing gays and lesbians have no business in participating in the sacrament or helping with communion. Again Religion singling out it's minorities. That wasn't the deal breaker for me. Had zero interest in the communion. I was finally at a stage in my life where it was time to shed the sugar coated garments of religion and live my life the way I wanted to... also figured out the God thing was a bit overrated... I think the Catholic Church appealed to my "Gay" side with all the pageantry and pomp. Priest get to wear some pretty awesome dresses. The burning of incense and the music was a tad bit better than the MORmON church too.
She still believes. He doesn't. I went to mass with them twice. That was in the 1970s. Jeans to mass and nothing on my head. It was interesting to watch and they had a live band. I didn't like the part where everyone turns and shakes hands and wishes them something. I'm an introvert and I felt uncomfortable, but I found it much easier to go to than mormon meetings. We could go when we chose and then do something else that day.
The first time I saw the handshake at the end of the service was at a Catholic funeral (the only time these days when I go to church.) I was appalled by it. The Catholic church used to be a good place for introverts, but not with the handshake.
I am Catholic. No particular dress code except to consider where you are, so dress respectfully. You don’t have to be dressed up if you don’t want to. Some do, some don’t. In the US showing your shoulders is ok but it’s important to dress in a way that doesn’t show off too much skin. For example as a lady I wouldn’t wear a dress that would show my rear when I kneel or have my boobs hanging out. However, how someone dresses is their choice but they are stricter in Italy.(Shoulders must be covered.) It can vary what is modest according to culture. Also, as far as inclusion, my parish had a lesbian couple whose child was baptized there without question and my priest has spoken out against child predators but I digress.
I belong to Trip Advisorss forum on Italy. Tourists have to cover knees and shoulders although it isn't always enforced esp in small churches. However, posters who actually live in Italy say that members often wear short skirts or sleeveless dresses even those who give the readings. One says she say a bride in St Peter's being married in a strapless dress. One rule for tourists and one for parishioners I guess. They have probably seen some ridiculous clothes on tourists which accounts for the rule. The rules are similar in Israel. I saw a girl there who was wearing a big scarf on her head as if it were a hijab along with short shorts and a tight top with spaghetti straps. Wrong. Catholics aren't Mulims, this isn't a mosque and no one care about hair. However her hot pants and low cut spaghetti straps were definitely not dress code. She certainly had the rules mixed up.
Now, we do wear mantillas or lace type veils as a sign of reverence to the presence of Christ. Mantillas have become optional but I do like to wear mine. It is very different from a hijab though. I went to Italy in 2007 and always made sure my shoulders were covered and my skirts came down to my knee but like I said what is considered modest can vary according to culture. Even a parish made of predominantly one culture can choose different policies according to the comfort level of the members. When I attend Spanish Mass probably 9 out of 10 people receive communion on the tongue instead of in hand as compared to an English speaking mass composed of Americans of various cultural backgrounds. The Catholic Church is universal and consists of all cultures and traditions can vary but Canon law remains the same.
I know a few women, mostly old, who wear hats or mantillas, but around here it is rare.In the churches I saw in Italy and Israel it was the same. The girl I saw in Israel was definitely wearing a hijab or hijab like head covering but she was exposed otherwise as if she were wearing a swim suit. I guess in her mind boobs and butts are okay, but hair is a no no. I had a hard time not laughing. I am almost positive she wasn't Muslim, but she seemed pretty confused. Lol