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Posted by: schrodingerscat ( )
Date: July 22, 2019 04:13PM

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2019/07/22/naacp-convention-lds/?fbclid=IwAR1lzOlrIdw4dz2Z6aS3RjuN6L0_IQ-6F1os_FIo3ykLKqF8Hob1I8rO8hc

Except for those two entire races our MORmON God 'cursed' with dark skin in Mormon scriptures for the sin of having been born African or American Indian, and the race He blessed with White and delightsome skin for repenting, which we still have canonized as the word of our (Racist) White Supremacist God.



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Posted by: schrodingerscat ( )
Date: July 22, 2019 04:25PM

Jana Riess: Will the Latter-day Saint leader apologize to NAACP for church’s past racism?
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2019/07/19/jana-riess-will-latter/

Uh, no.
But he got the President of the NAACP to pretend like he did, so mission accomplished.

"Then the NAACP leader alluded to the church’s former ban on black boys and men in its all-male priesthood and women and girls barred from temple rituals, which was removed in 1978.

Nelson did not apologize for the church’s previous racial policy, but Brown seemed to suggest the faith already had.

The Latter-day Saints “had the courage to say, ‘We have unfortunately been complicit in the evil of racism in this nation,’” Brown said. ‘But unlike some persons in this country, we are humble enough to say we are sorry, we are going to change our ways, we are going to do a new thing, sing a new song, talk a new talk, walk a new walk.’”

For his part, Nelson did not mention the now-removed ban, but he spoke glowingly of the growing fellowship with the NAACP, which was clearly spelled out in an opinion column in Sunday’s Detroit News."

God the MORmON PR machine is amazing.
How do they get people to just gloss over the fact that no demographic voted to hand off the nuclear football to a racist sexual predator more than MORmONs?

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Posted by: schrodingerscat ( )
Date: July 22, 2019 10:22PM

"The Latter-day Saints “had the courage to say, ‘We have unfortunately been complicit in the evil of racism in this nation,’” Brown said. ‘But unlike some persons in this country, we are humble enough to say we are sorry, we are going to change our ways, we are going to do a new thing, sing a new song, talk a new talk, walk a new walk.’”

Nice fantasy universe you inhabit there Bro, where up is down, black is white, white is black...and we're all the same so what does it matter?

What it matters is that you've apparently sold out to the highest bidder, in this case, the MORmON crutch, who's followers voted more than any other demographic, to put the nuclear football in the hands of the guy who claimed our first black President was born in Kenya and was a Muslim, A doomsday CULT which shares the most racist, white supremacist scriptures with the Fundamentalist MORmONs, who's leader is rotting in prison on multiple child rape convictions.
No so-called "Church" is more racist than the Mormons except the Fundamentalist MORmONs, why are you pandering to them?
Oh yeah $$$$ and they got lots of it and you don't.



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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: July 22, 2019 05:10PM

Ahhh. Russ makes everyone feel warm and fuzzy. Brigham Young probably would excommunicate Russ for saying such nice things to the black people.

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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: July 22, 2019 05:12PM

Dang. We all misread this. Holding the priesthood and attending the temple is a chore. It's a curse. I guess the church really was treating colored people well by banning them from such things.

What I would have given to be banned from the temple and priesthood while growing up in the church.

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Posted by: Shinehah ( )
Date: July 22, 2019 08:19PM

Reportedly, Russ was heard to say on the way home after his speech:
"Wendy, who was that group? I thought you said it was another General Priesthood Meeting."

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Posted by: sharapata ( )
Date: July 22, 2019 08:31PM

Actually, far from celebrating this event, some of the comments posted by TBMs on the Deseret News bemoan and decry Nelson's mere association with such a sinister, left leaning organization such as the NAACP.

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Posted by: babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: July 23, 2019 12:09AM

I didn’t know Blazing Saddles was a documentary.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: July 23, 2019 12:58AM

6 is actually 9, but just upside-down.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: July 22, 2019 11:53PM

was there as asterisk after that remark from Russ?


just on its face, I'd say it indicates that there is no Mormon Royalty!



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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: July 24, 2019 10:00AM

It's behind a paywall but I'm a subscriber:

"EVEN AS American debates over race and identity turn increasingly toxic, one of the country’s most powerful religious groups and one of its most venerable anti-racist groups have taken a step in the opposite direction. The president of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, still known widely as the Mormons even though they have renounced that name, received a warm welcome on July 21st in an unlikely setting: the annual convention of the National Association for the Advancement of Coloured People (NAACP).

“We strive to build bridges of co-operation rather than walls of segregation,” declared Russell Nelson, a lively 94-year-old, at the gathering in Detroit. Drawing polite applause, he quoted a line from the Mormon scriptures, affirming that Jesus Christ “denies none that come unto him: black and white, bond and free, male and female, all are alike unto God.”

To put it mildly, nothing about Mr Nelson’s appearance, or his choice of words, was routine or obvious. He and his church have, in several senses, travelled a long way. As the church’s own website spells out, the Latter-day Saints (LDS) have a bad history in matters of race. Only in 1978 did leaders of the church open the priesthood to black people, and admit black people to the supremely sacred religious rituals known as ordinances.

For the NAACP, making friends with the LDS was a difficult journey, steered by a handful of individuals in the movement’s leadership and initially resisted by some members. The rapprochement has been in high gear since the spring of 2018. In purely human terms, the groups got better acquainted when the NAACP’s current president, Derrick Johnson, accompanied an LDS lawyer on a trip to Tanzania in 2010. One of the early fruits of this relationship was an article on the LDS website in 2013 which looked frankly at the LDS’s history on questions of race.

The church started in 1830, when a man in New York state called Joseph Smith published texts which he called fresh revelations from God. In its first couple of decades, at least a few black men became priests, and by the time of his murder in 1844 Smith had become an opponent of slavery. But the church’s next powerful leader, Brigham Young, declared in 1852 that black men could not become priests. Over the following few years black people were excluded from rites such as “endowment”, a ceremony which is intended to prepare believers for a high status in the after-life.

As the 2013 article, which is understood to have been co-authored by a prominent African-American LDS member, bluntly explains, such exclusions were rooted in racist religious myths that were not confined to the early Mormons: for example, the idea that black people inherit a curse from the Biblical figure of Cain. By the 1970s, these restrictions had become bitterly controversial, bringing opprobrium on the sports teams fielded by Brigham Young University, a Mormon institution. The policies also became untenable when the church decided, in 1975, to found a temple in multi-racial Brazil, and as it gained hundreds of thousands of converts in Ghana and Nigeria.

Four decades on, the practice of open discrimination seems like a distant, unpleasant memory. But it is fair to say that LDS culture, especially in the faith’s stronghold of Utah, remains rooted in middle-class white America, where the struggles of chronically disadvantaged groups to escape the traps of poverty and lawlessness seem very far away. The American LDS have been efficient and generous as donors of aid and emergency relief in poor countries. They also engage in poverty relief at home, but they are restrained by a strong philosophical objection to anything that encourages chronic dependence.

That’s one reason why the relationship between the NAACP and the church’s leadership is an improbable breakthrough. One of its early manifestations reflects the LDS ethos of self-reliance: in four inner cities the church is offering free courses on how poor people can manage their money.

These exercises amount to a cautious rapprochement between segments of American society that remain very different. George Handley, a professor who specialises in literature and cultural studies at Brigham Young University, believes that, paradoxically, the collective memory of struggling to survive in the 19th century made the LDS more insular and less inclined to empathise with other groups. “The experience of being persecuted gave us a tendency to separate ourselves, almost to create our own civilisation,” he says. “That led to great accomplishments, but it also made us less aware of the struggles of other communities.”

Only now, it seems, is that awareness developing as it should."

Any comments?



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Posted by: babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: July 24, 2019 10:09AM

He should be okay with his granddaughters dating black guys.

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Posted by: Chicken N. Backpacks ( )
Date: July 24, 2019 01:38PM

Yeah, everything's good now, even though it was God himself that punished "fence-sitters" by making them "black"....

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