Date: August 09, 2019 09:00AM
I am responding to comments made by Amyjo on janeeliot's thread on the topic of circumcision:https://www.exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,2247719,2247719#msg-2247719
(I have started this new thread to avoid going so far off topic on the other thread).
Amyjo says, in part:
"This is the first thread I have even begun discussing circumcision because I didn't on the ones that hijacked my prior thread on a different subject matter entirely just to attack my religion for being Jewish."
"I'm here to discuss ex-Moism and to unite in our reasons for leaving the Morg. Not to persecute the Jews or those who circumcise their newborn infant male children."
Amyjo: Your thread was not "hijacked", as I've already discussed, with good intent, on another thread, but I guess you're going to continue making that claim. Perhaps you actually believe it.
Even more so, it is wildly inaccurate to claim that you were attacked for being Jewish or that anybody was "persecuting the Jews".
That is an appalling thing to say and has no basis in reality.
Did you report such egregious rule-breaking posting behaviour as that which you describe? If not, why not?
Anti-Semitism, if it occurs, gets gone from here in a NY minute. If it is reported, or otherwise noticed by mods. Again I ask, did you report it? I think not, as many of the posts which you claim are attacking in nature and/or are anti-Semitic still stand. (So they were either not reported, not seen by Admin or were deemed acceptable).
You also said:
"Tell that to some of the atheist zealots who just want to argue every chance they get against any custom or observance having to do with any type of religious observance they get a chance."
1. Arguing is also not permitted here. There is certainly disagreement and that is allowed, if kept within the bounds of civility.
2. Referring to non-religious posters as "atheist zealots" is offensive. You would be the first to complain loudly if anyone made a similar comment about people of faith. (Also, obviously, some of the responses to you were made by people who are religious so, by simple definition, they are not "atheist zealots").
I don't want to argue interminably with you, or at all. But I cannot let your false claims stand. You were NOT discriminated against or or attacked or persecuted for any reason, especially not regarding your Jewish faith.
If you feel that is the case, please report it to RfM Administration and let them survey the posts in question. If it is determined that your claim is unfounded (which will be obvious if the posts are not removed) then PLEASE do not continue to make such claims. If you choose not to report any posts for these reasons, then you have no basis for continuing to make such claims.
In my view, NOBODY here posted anything remotely anti-Semitic to you or about you.
It is not honest to claim that differences of opinion here between you and other posters is "persecution" merely because you are Jewish.
For one thing, it diminishes the real persecution faced by not only your people but others all over the world throughout the history of humankind who have suffered such atrocity.
For another, it is an offence against this board and its posters because it is a terrible claim to make and also is untrue.
If you can prove otherwise, please do so.
If not, please do not continue to make such claims. It is as baseless and inaccurate as if I were to say that your recent fierce disagreements with me were based on the fact of me being non-Jewish. Can you see how ridiculous such a claim would be? Unless that is the case. Which I'm going to take a wild guess it is not.
People who disagree with your opinions are not "zealots". They are just people who disagree with your opinions.
Disagreement is permitted here. That is part of the beauty of the place. It is not zealotry to hold different views from those of others. How one presents their views is another story.
Why would you say such a thing as that our mere disagreement is evidence of anti-Semitism? If you honestly believe that, then you must feel yourself under constant attack. Because where can you go where everybody walks in lock-step? Maybe some religious circles where all are expected to think and act in uniformity? If that is what you are expecting at RfM you are doomed to massive disappointment.
Bottom Line: False claims of anti-Semitism are harmful in ways that should be obvious. Why do it?
Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 08/09/2019 09:14AM by Nightingale.