Because I am a responsible member of RfM (and thus get the Responsible freakin' Member discount) I did not hijack Cheryl's very interesting RfM thread.

But as my title suggests, I was prompted to start this brand new, non-intrusive thread by this comment:

> "You must sacrifice yourself for me."
> Second biggest lie in the book.

But does this mean the BIGGEST lie in terms of the enormity of the deceit, or does it mean the biggest lie in terms of repetitions?

Or is it the lie on the graph where the two lines intersect?


There! Was that good for you?

#1:
"You are responsible for my happiness."

This one's really good.

"You are responsible for my unhappiness."

Simplistic serf that I am, I'm going with the most popular lie, "I didn't do it!"

elderolddog Wrote:
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> I'm going with the most
> popular lie, "I didn't do it!"
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Lol!!

How about: "Debbil made me dun it" a close second ;-)

Ah yes, that brings to mind one of the Dawg's many past jobs. . .

Here he reprises one of the great moral principles in religion. God has said it many times, his servants the prophets repeat it ad nauseam, and it is a typical refrain among local leaders. One might say it is the key to membership in an organization that claims to adhere to a higher law.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKQhj852pso



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Biggest lie: We have answers
2nd biggest: You'll get to live forever

Well, I don't like the lie--but you did a good job of finding the biggest lie.



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“This is that,” that is the biggest lie.

But without it, we couldn’t say anything at all.

Maybe "God" is the biggest lie in Mormonism.
The second biggest lie is that Mormons can speak and judge for God.

This is the basis for all the other Mormon lies, invented to instill fear and hatred and self-loathing, and to force obedience and to get money out of you such as:

"God will punish you!"

You will fail financially if you do not pay tithing,
You will not be with your family in the hereafter, unless you are sealed in the temple (and pay tithing to get there).
You will become sick, if you break the WOW.


"You are unworthy." is the third biggest lie, IMO.
Already, you are set up to fail, because nobody can be perfect.

"I swore she was 18" -- Joe Smith

one mediocore lie:

The check is in the mail.

Biggest lie: "I know the church is true".
Second biggest lie: "beyond a shadow of a doubt".



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This colors all of our perceptions. We see our 'shadow' outside of us, so that we can feel innocent and right while others are guilty and wrong (and merit blame, contempt, punishment, sacrifice). And our live would be better if we could change those outside things which are so annoying, irritating, or hurtful.

In addition, as part of this projection, we imagine a "God" who perceives us the same way as we see others (sinful) and us as meriting the same as we would deal out.

Believe me.

That much I can tell you.

" When I speak...GOD IS SPEAKING!"

I love you

At some point, the statement will be untrue.

I was just going to say that.

Hard to define but I suspect it usually begins with "I".

It's hard to define but I suspect it usually begins with "I".

"To be perfectly honest". So....does that mean that you're dishonest most of the time??

"You are nothing."


"Believe me, and to be perfectly honest" have always been red flags to me.

Also when someone says, "Not to hurt anyone's feelings..." or "not to gossip..." or "Not to be critical..." you know that they are going to proceed to do exactly that. Like, do they think they can neutralize or back-pedal their comment in advance?

"I know"...…

"No, really. I'm fine."

Some of the most repeated lies:

"I'm okay. You?"

"I don't want the last (unit of food. Ex: 'slice of pizza' )."

"No, you don't look fat."

"I know what I'm doing!"

"Don't worry about it."


Biggest deception: "You will have a happier/more productive life/afterlife if you do exactly as I tell you."

And it came to pass

That we are all sinners and need God to save us. I think is intrinsically past of western individual psychology. So damaging.

"I'm not Canadian."

LOL, LW.

This one made my night.

wrong place



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It's not the money; it's the principle.

I will never...(hurt you, leave you, give up on you, cheat you, lie to you, leave you, stop loving you, etc).

Any one who says "I will never (do whatever)" is lying. They will do it, someday. It's guaranteed - the word never has some sort of bad voodoo in it when used in this context. I've experienced it myself, I'm sorry to say.

You can move a mountain into the sea with faith.

"Ghawd is a ghawd of love!"

"I'm hardly ever online!"

"We matter."

HH =)

"I'll get right on it. Tomorrow."

I don't know about the rest of humanity, but I'm guilty of that lie on a daily basis. Ask my wife.

Trust me.

This is the best of all systems.

Uttered in many ways and believed by too many - that we need someone to lead us and tell us what to do. It undermines human integrity and removes our ability to function for ourselves and learn to rely on each other. It also makes us all too easy to control.

elderolddog Wrote:
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> > "You must sacrifice yourself for me."

“When a person cannot deceive himself the chances are against his being able to deceive other people.” Mark Twain, Autobiography of Mark Twain.

"I promise not to c*** in your m****."

I love you.

In other words, does being naive or ignorant make you a liar? Because I think we all fall into that category. Probably all currently known "facts" will eventually be shown to be untrue, either in principle or partiality.

I don’t lie

“I’ll just get petrol in the morning....I won’t be late for work”

Or

“god loves his children. He loves everyone and hears their prayers”

Everything happens for a reason.

Yes, often a fatuous statement, as if "reason" is always within the scope of our thinking, or calls upon faith to trust divine reason. But the saying comes from Aristotle and is the basis of empirical science.

I'll love you forever.

"I don't judge"

(My former "home teacher", or whatever the hell you called him, once said that to me. I bit him back with, "Everybody judges. Some aren't comfortable being truthful about it, though."

The check is in the mail.