David Robson is a senior journalist at BBC Future. Some of the material in this article is based on the research for his book, "The Intelligence Trap: Why Smart People Make Dumb Mistakes."

"Besides a resistance to these kinds of biases, there are also more general critical thinking skills – such as the capacity to challenge your assumptions, identify missing information, and look for alternative explanations for events before drawing conclusions. These are crucial to good thinking, but they do not correlate very strongly with IQ, and do not necessarily come with higher education. One study in the USA found almost no improvement in critical thinking throughout many people’s degrees.

Given these looser correlations, it would make sense that the rise in IQs has not been accompanied by a similarly miraculous improvement in all kinds of decision making."

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20190709-has-humanity-reached-peak-intelligence

The stupid people are outbreeding us. It's Idiocracy.

What proof do you or any of us have that we're not part of 'The Stupid People'?

Oh, sure, we'll each agree, 'mongst ourselves, that we're the bees knees when it comes to intelligence, but where or what's our proof?

We are not the stupid people because we are EX mormons.

Correct.

We are stupid people because of other things.

elderolddog Wrote:
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> What proof do you or any of us have that we're not
> part of 'The Stupid People'?
>
> Oh, sure, we'll each agree, 'mongst ourselves,
> that we're the bees knees when it comes to
> intelligence, but where or what's our proof?
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Atheist of Dave may may be referring to this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XZde5VDAA8U

Agree or not, it is classlessly hilarious for a lowbrow like me

Dave the Atheist Wrote:
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> The stupid people are outbreeding us. It's
> Idiocracy.

Hi Dave, I would be very interested in hearing how you propose that you can stop stupid people outbreeding you, and how you can increase the breeding of what you consider superior intellects.

Once AI takes over one of the first signs will be that nanites have been produced and distributed through the air to make us all infertile.

Good news is we will live much longer lives.

But if you cross the Master AI, a lever will be flipped and your formerly beneficial nanites will eat their way out of you, leaving you a multi-multi-multi perforated corpse. Probably relatively painless for you, but a hell of an object lesson for those who see it live or on YouTube.

I suspect that AI will develop higher emotions than we currently possess. "Super-love" for example. Our Robot overlords will be benevolent and keep us around as pets.

If they do put some of us down it will be because of our own dysfunctional behaviors; like our tendencies to kill each other of our own kind. Much like you would put down a dog for killing other friendly dogs.

I have word finding difficulty, I burn things regularly, I repeat stories a lot and ask the same questions over and over again (ask my kids--I've been doing that for years).

When I first read the subject line, I thought it said, "Have you reached your peak intelligence."

I am not concerned about dementia. My therapist has told me for a long time it is STRESS in my situation.



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"word-finding difficulty"

Saucie and I just work around these common lapses and then later, when the word that ran away comes sneaking back, return to the conversation with the now available word.

Anyone listening in would soon be very confused.



And I just noticed!!! When I'm writing I almost never have this problem! Only when I'm oral! ... probably because it's not moral...

It is remarkable that we have today at our fingertips, literally, the Library of Congress, yet have this:

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/02/14/277058739/1-in-4-americans-think-the-sun-goes-around-the-earth-survey-says

Look around. It explains a lot.

With my computer and smart phone I have the sum of human knowledge at my fingertips yet all I do is look at cat pictures and get into arguments with perfect strangers.

in this thred ~


OPie achieves the peak of illtelligence ~

I don't think so. I don't think we yet know how to unlock the full capacity of our brains. And there is the possibility that evolution can develop a better brain.

I do think that educators can do better. I think that the whole process of what and how we teach needs to be completely rethought. We can do better.

I can see an improvement in Arizona elementary education. There’s an emphasis on positivity and positive reinforcement. This isn’t the church. Educators value the scientific research of child psychologists. I would hope that lifetime habits such as setting intention and identifying self-limiting behaviors make it into early education. I’m not sure how that will fly in Utah, since Mormonism is a self-limiting behavior. But other states can take the lead on that.

Technology has turned society into a bunch of fat slobs addicted to porn. The only reason we don’t get into a big conflict and wipe each other out is we would have to get off the couch.

We all reach it at different times.

Its called the Peter Principle.

I don't know the validity of this article, but it is partially true I believe that humans are expanding their intelligence.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-09-21-google-achieves-quantum-supremacy-all-cryptocurrency.html


Technology is expanding into areas we never dreamed. There are robots that are doing the work, faster and cheaper, that was done by our fathers and grandfathers in factories 100 years ago. Auto workers, as well as plane builders, are getting replaced by robots. It does take human intelligence to keep those robots operating.

Look at the changes in farming, robots and computers managing the fields from tilling, leveling, planting and harvesting.

I have friends that are dairy farmers. Where 50-75 years ago it took dozens of workers to manage 1000 cows. Now with automatic milkers, a couple of works can manger 10,000 cows faster and cleaner. 4 workers can manage 3 milking cycles a day.

People are innovative.

Yes there are others that have no more motivation but playing video games and getting high on drugs and booze.



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Geeze, I hope not; if we have, that spells TROUBLE...

Charles Murray has written a great deal on this subject, which is fascinating. What we know has happened is that Americans are scoring higher and higher on the IQ test as the decades pass. But that doesn't necessarily mean we are getting smarter. The achievement gap in the test has stayed about the same distance when comparing the different ethnic groups compared to whites. So the debate continues as to what to do about that and who's fault it is. And we haven't yet quite decided who to blame.

What exactly are you saying?

Average intelligence is increasing over time?

That improvement is driven by greater intelligence among white people?

Don't be shy, macaRomney. Someone has to apply the porcine cosmetics.

Things have been sputtering along in fits since then.

Now we have increasingly smart appliances and phones in direct correlation to increasingly dumb people.

Consumers of technology mistakenly think that possessing advanced technology makes them smarter than their ancestors who did not have advanced technology. But 99.9% of the modern consumers who possess advanced technology, don't understand the technology, don't understand how it works and can't fix it if it malfunctions. They are simply consumers who have been trained in how to press buttons and tap on interactive screens.

If you want to know how to successfully grow a crop of tomatoes, don't ask any typical urban smart phone user. But their ancestors probably knew and did it often.

If you want to know how to make butter or cheese, make a pair of shoes, or actually produce anything of tangible value, you'd statistically have better luck if you were living among a group of people 200 years ago.

More information is readily accessible today, some of it garbage and some of it true and accurate. One big improvement is sanitation and practices for avoiding water-borne diseases (such as cholera). But that does not = greater intelligence. Just more effective distribution of valuable information on discoveries made by small numbers of people accounting for just a tiny fraction of less than one percent of the population.