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Posted by: dumbmormons ( )
Date: November 02, 2019 09:04PM

When whole Stakes and such do a Fast - is this actually discrimination against Farmers and those who produce and sell food?

Is it that or do they figure that after a day or so of not eating the people will pig out and eat more than normal?

They fast for or against something - and the world goes on anyway. Is it a secret religious plan to control the marketplace and The Brethren have investors who target various businesses for higher or lower stock prices influenced by sales due to fasting?

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Posted by: Heartless ( )
Date: November 02, 2019 11:52PM

The fasting is simply two things.

First: to control the masses. Making hundreds of men women and children go through something unpleasant on command may be a huge ego trip for some.

Second: shame. The sheeple didn't live up to the expectations of the leader who now tells them they must atone for their failure by sacrificing something.

The result is most likely the vast majority ignore the fast. The solid believers unquestioningly admit they failed and deserve to be punished. Some that waiver may or may not feel a need to change their ways.

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Posted by: catnip ( )
Date: November 03, 2019 01:12AM

While I am generally not keen on the renal disease that runs in my family, I was profoundly grateful to be told by my renal specialist (after becoming Mormon) that while I could fast if I so desired, under NO circumstances was I to go without adequate hydration, EVER. He even wrote a letter saying so to my bishop. It made F&T days tolerable.

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Posted by: Come on, dude ( )
Date: November 03, 2019 02:51AM

Farmers are not being treated differently from anyone else if someone fasts.

Mormons don't actually fast, anyway. They skip what, two meals in a 24 hour period? Most of them need to be skipping a meal a day, every day, judging from the waistlines I've observed.

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Posted by: babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: November 03, 2019 03:15AM

Fasting is a practice that the Mormons ripped off from other religions. Since they didn’t invent it, maybe it has some value.

Fasting has health benefits. If you “feel the spirit” it’s because your body knows you’re doing something good for it. It sure as fetch doesn’t mean the church is true.

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Posted by: CL2 ( )
Date: November 03, 2019 08:09AM

No, fasting doesn't discriminate against farmers. What about those starving in other countries (or in this country). Send the food to them.

My dad was a farmer. He'd never say that. I doubt he ever fasted on fast Sunday. Maybe he did at other times. After I was pregnant with twins, I never fasted again even after the pregnancy was over. I had fasted until I was sick over trying to find answers to my gay "boyfriend/husband" situation. Even when I knew he was cheating, I knew it had no effect whatsoever.

If I skip a meal, which I should, like someone said above, I sure feel a lot better. But in the past few months, I've been making up for it between meals.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/03/2019 08:10AM by cl2.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: November 03, 2019 09:08AM

I've never believed in fasting (except as mandated by a physician for a given purpose, i.e. testing or surgery.) I don't believe that it has any health benefit. I don't believe that it has any spiritual benefit. Our bodies were built to process and digest food, and if for some reason our body does not want solid food on a particular day, it will let us know.

My body has been good to me. Why would I willfully deny it what it needs to run well? I would not fail to gas up my car and then be surprised when it just stops.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: November 03, 2019 01:08PM

Does dieting discriminate against farmers ?
If I eat a wonderful beyond burger am I discriminating against ranchers ?
If I drive a Tesla am I discriminating against fossil fuels ?

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Posted by: 23Skidoo ( )
Date: November 03, 2019 01:38PM

Dave the Atheist Wrote:
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> Does dieting discriminate against farmers ?
> If I eat a wonderful beyond burger am I
> discriminating against ranchers ?
> If I drive a Tesla am I discriminating against
> fossil fuels ?

What does Tesla use as lubricants for bearings, etc?

As for sending your food to "starving kids in Africa" and such. Try it - just be sure to put the return address of someone you don't like so all the Federal Agencies that will show up to investigate you bother them instead.

Try it - you might be surprised at how many agency folks will show up.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: November 03, 2019 01:47PM

Tell us what agencies will harass you for sending food to the country of Africa ?

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: November 03, 2019 01:40PM

Does the Beyond Burger need to be wonderful to qualify? Would a mediocre, underdone product count?

As for a Tesla, whether that is discrimination against fossil fuels totally depends on how the electricity is produced. And discrimination is not necessarily a bad thing.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: November 03, 2019 01:49PM

You've obviously never had a beyond burger. They are the best !

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Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: November 03, 2019 02:39PM

Joseph Smith started "fast day," which was the first Thursday of the month. Fast Thursday was particularly hard on LDS farmers, who comprised the predominant group of members in Mormonland. So in 1896 fast day was changed to the first Sunday of the month, when, theoretically, LDS farmers would not be working the fields.

LDS authorities are always looking out for their members.

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Posted by: CL2 ( )
Date: November 03, 2019 04:07PM

or other things that are grown by farmers. It isn't just cattle, which my dad did not have when he was farming. They had a dairy farm when he was growing up.

We raised sheep as an FFA project for my brother (and my dad was over the FFA) and not a one of us ever ate sheep and still don't.

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