Maybe the first presidency was being prophetic when they pulled the church out of the Boy Scouts. Rusty can say “told ya”. Or church lawyers are smarter than we give them credit.

How many of the scouts lawsuits came from Mormon troops?

Boy Scouts was an interesting organization but it’s dated. It’s going the way of the organizations that sponsored it.

This is a great shame. The Scouts did many good things, but clearly didn't protect children enough.

You'll hate me for this, but who does a case from the sixties and seventies affect?

A lot of the scout leaders from back then are dead or old.

Few people will be able to remember much from back then so the witness pool is small.

The psychological damage to the victims is permanent and has been going on for forty, fifty or even sixty years. Money won't cure it.

The org is in its last days and has been a political victim.

The only real benefactors here are the lawyers.

Many of the arguments you make could also be said about the cases against the Roman Catholic church. Yet I think the Boy Scouts (though I was never one) taught a lot more necessary things (ignoring, for the moment at least, how the LDS church misused Scouting) than the Roman Catholic church ever did. Learning how to live in the outdoors is going to be a necessary skill no matter how technically advanced we become, and I don't see any organizations yet willing to step up and take the place of the BSA in this regard.

It’s not a matter of repairing damage done, most civil cases don’t. The suits are for compensation. Compensation is the main goal of civil suits. As far as the BSA being the victims here, I guess they could counter sue if they think that is the case.

Yes, the lawyers will make some money, if the defendants are shown to be liable. However, the majority of the settlement money will go to the victims as compensation.

Yes there could be some truth to that the lawyers are interested in something more than representing victims. I'm thinking of the recent headlines about Avennatti trying to extortion $25 million from Nike after stealing money from Stormy Daniels book tour. He's presently in solitary confinement with El Chapo and is suffering emotionally from all this.

there are a lot of bad lawyers out there. But as for the boy scouts, it's a big problem that I'm glad is finely getting the attention it deserves. I remember back to being an 11 year old and having a pedophile leader who went to jail on the weekends and paroled on weekdays. We're just not hard enough on criminals if you ask me. But this was back in the 90s before the Me-Too movement and the Catholic pervert scandals began to make such a stir. Perverts could get away with more back in the day.

I'll add, Capable, that there is a valuable deterrent effect to these suits. There are other organizations around that shield predators (read: LDS and RCC and many others) and will stand up and take notice when such entities are punished condignly.

The Mormons have made some improvements due to legal and political pressure but they have a long way to go. Seeing the Boy Scouts destroyed for its role in ruining kids' lives will have an impact on thinking in SLC.

It is a shame. BSA tried to protect the boys with the "2-deep leadership" concept, etc. I think a true pedophile will find a way to worm his way around any safeguard. For instance, in my stake, a Boy Scout Master, confirmed and ordained by revelation of the Bishop, Holy Ghost, and Jesus, would invite a few underprivileged brothers to his home for extra activities at his house. He was their buddy, their surrogate father if you will. Mom was ecstatic to get them out of the house and have a male role model. He was grooming them all along, with porn and alcohol..got them drunk and you know the rest. Now in prison 15 years later. In this day and age of campouts, overnights - it's just to dangerous. Time for BSA to go away, unfortunately.

Now they can bid on the assets, and bingo, they have control of BSA, again

my BSA experience was very limited due to a move from Richmond Beach (now Shoreline) to Duluth, MN. my first skinny-dipping was at a scout sponsored overnight campout. I think the troop was sponsored by the Congregational Church in RB.

I was lucky to have good leaders > good memories.

Someone made a good point in this thread that I would also be interested in.

How many of these lawsuits should actually be pointed at the Mormon Church?

From how I understand the Mormon Church workings, shouldn't any lawsuit against the Boy Scouts in Utah and any part of the Morridor technically be be against the Mormon Church instead. They were the ones appointing the leaders, not the Boy Scouts.

Am I off on this?

How does the Mormon Church get off scotch free but the Boy Scouts do not?

Usually suits are aimed at all the major players. The plaintiff can haul anyone into court and the judge/jury then decide who bears the liability or how to split it up. So my guess is that in most of the suits where the LDS church was significantly involved, both organizations have been targeted.

That would be appropriate since the BSA has attached its name to programs run by the LDS church. Parents would reasonably have thought both entities were doing all necessary to protect their kids.

It looks to me like it's aimed at allowing the BSA to survive.

https://www.npr.org/2020/02/18/806721827/boy-scouts-of-america-files-for-bankruptcy-as-it-faces-hundreds-of-sex-abuse-cla

>>The organization says it will use the Chapter 11 procedure to create a trust to provide compensation to victims. Scouting programs will continue throughout.

That looks like they're trying to take the high road, and as a "technical Nevermo" (folks are inactive Jack Mormons) who actually earned an Eagle Scout rank in an LDS troop, I'm hopeful the BSA will survive.

I'm also sad the LDS Church is "divorcing" itself from scouting; I see a number of reasons besides the sex abuse lawsuits; two huge areas, IMO, are girls being permitted to join,* as well as gays...

I feel I gained a lot from scouting despite "catching hell" at my "Board of Review" over my religious/spiritual views; I was "essentially an atheist" back then (I'm not now), but even against the "LDS backdrop," I acquired some environmental views and an appreciation for the outdoors I still cherish (much of "LDS Utah" is stinkeroo on this matter), and the education involved in earning merit badges was excellent as well.
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*I'm foursquare against the LDS Church's practice of subjugating women, but I also think "coed camping" can be problematic for obvious reasons. Kids have always found ways of acting out their hormone's agendas, but we do have a responsibility to act as grownups.

"The Boy Scouts of America (BSA) have declared financial bankruptcy to go along with their moral bankruptcy."