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Posted by: iceman9090 ( )
Date: June 15, 2020 07:31PM

Hello people,

Is it written
1. I am use to it
or
2. I am used to it

Is it written
1. They are use to it
or
2. They are used to it

Why would the word use be used? Shouldn't you use habituated?
Example: I am habituated.
They are habituated.

~~~~iceman9090

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Posted by: dogbloggernli ( )
Date: June 15, 2020 07:49PM

Idiomatic usage makes language odd this way.

Used is correct US modern spoken US English. Use is improper prescriptively, but colloquial in descriptive grammar.

Habituated is also proper but requires a higher regarding level in your audience.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: June 15, 2020 07:59PM

Evimadentially you is edumacated! It's well that things turned out good for you!!

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Posted by: dogbloggernli ( )
Date: June 15, 2020 08:16PM

Some of it even at BYU until I got kicked out.

Foreshadowing by God perhaps?

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Posted by: Done & Done ( )
Date: June 15, 2020 08:12PM

I used to be Mormon and then got use to being a real human being and habituated to that?

Used, use, either way is fine but habituated sounds like something you do at a brothel.

In business emails I use the word "formerly" or "wuz once" depending on the client.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: June 15, 2020 08:25PM

I write the sentence good.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: June 15, 2020 08:34PM

And we are all inured to your grammatical atrocities!

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: June 15, 2020 08:40PM

Inure face, lady!!

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: June 15, 2020 08:43PM

I am inured to your juvenile humor, penurious cousin of Judic West and some lady in New Jersey!

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: June 16, 2020 12:47AM

Cheap bastard!

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: June 16, 2020 12:57AM

Judic is cheap but he is young. He may yet become a great grift.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: June 15, 2020 08:41PM

About those sentence fragments.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: June 15, 2020 08:42PM

Mine? That is a complete sentence as, sadly, is EOD's as well.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: June 15, 2020 09:08PM

But not mine.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: June 15, 2020 09:08PM

Well, this sentence no verb!

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Posted by: Heartless ( )
Date: June 15, 2020 09:01PM

If you'd just speak and write American we'd understand you gooder.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: June 15, 2020 09:16PM

Anything unrelated to elephants is irrelephant.

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Posted by: iceman9090 ( )
Date: June 15, 2020 11:05PM

Thanks dudes,

My unlimited love to you all.

~~~~iceman9090

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Posted by: The Spin ( )
Date: June 16, 2020 06:24AM

I am accustomed to it.

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Posted by: kentish ( )
Date: June 16, 2020 11:10AM

As Professor Higgins lamented in Why Can't the English...

"The Scots and the Irish leave you close to tears.

There are even places where English completely disappears.

In America, they haven't used it for years."

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: June 16, 2020 02:29PM

The UK and the United States: two countries divided by a common language.

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Posted by: Kentish ( )
Date: June 16, 2020 02:48PM

The ones that surprised me most when I arrived here. English: I wish I had...American: I wish I would have..or I wish I would have went. Not to say that English people do not have their own problems.

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: June 16, 2020 03:42PM

I always wondered if the "I wish I would have" might have come from the large number of German immigrants to the US. Certainly, to this Brit whose profession is the English and French languages, quite a few constructions inAmerican English strike me as possibly due to non-English-speaking immgrants "ironing out" the more difficult and specific bits of British English. I haven't studied it however.

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Posted by: dogblogger ( )
Date: June 17, 2020 06:53PM

English verb form is a mess of concepts that can get far more convoluted than you were likely taught.

There is tense. You learned most of these I suspect but couldn't name them as distinct forms.

http://www.englishlessonsbrighton.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/english-tenses-infographic-1024x303.jpg

But tense combines with aspect, mood, and voice for various effects that other languages often handle differently.

https://www.brighthubeducation.com/english-homework-help/39260-the-english-verb-system-for-esl-students/

The subjunctive mood particularly messes with people. This allows the proper conjugation of "If I were to have..."
"would" speech often falls here or other hypothetical tenses that get messy.

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: June 18, 2020 02:11AM


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Posted by: iceman9090 ( )
Date: June 18, 2020 02:36PM

+dogblogger:
Ah! French has that as well. We had to learn it in school and some verbs just sounded weird.
It was difficult to memorize.

~~~~iceman9090.

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Posted by: Chicken N. Backpacks ( )
Date: June 16, 2020 12:45PM

I find your argument perfectly cromulent.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: June 16, 2020 03:07PM

My favorite:

Spanish speakers learning English can't seem to get away from, "Entonces me bajé del carry ..." = "And then I got off the car ..."

Hispanics ride on the car and when the get to their destination, they get off the car!

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: June 16, 2020 03:44PM

...in English.

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Posted by: [|] ( )
Date: June 16, 2020 04:42PM

Why do we get in the car, but we get on the plane, on the bus, and on the train?

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: June 16, 2020 04:36PM

Why do ravel and unravel mean the same thing?

Why do regardless and irregardless mean the same thing, but reversible and irreversible don't? (yeah, I know, but it's a real word if people use it often enough)

Why do flammable and inflammable mean (approximately) the same thing, but combustible and incombustible are opposites?

I don't know if this is a carryover from Norwegian usage, but many people in the northern Great Plains don't use "loan" as a verb. They get a loan to buy a house or car, but they borrow a book from someone, or borrow a book to someone. They do not loan a book to someone. This quirk drives outsiders nuts.

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Posted by: dogblogger ( )
Date: June 17, 2020 06:55PM

English is a hodge-podge importer of words so the above examples make sense that way. But certainly not consistency, no.

The myriad ways we use "get" is also very confusing to foreigners.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: June 17, 2020 07:31PM

Very true. I sometimes suggest that foreign speakers of English should avoid "get" altogether since it is so very idiomatic and hence susceptible to awkward errors.

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Posted by: Kentish ( )
Date: June 17, 2020 10:38PM

No such word as it regardless. Regardless is sufficient.

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Posted by: KentishzPP ( )
Date: June 17, 2020 10:42PM

Tablet won't let me use the non word used as meaning the same as regardless.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: June 17, 2020 10:54PM

I need to unthaw my freezer.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: June 18, 2020 03:41PM

LOL. Like I said, it becomes real if enough people use it. Perhaps autocorrect will be able to suppress "irregardless". We can hope.

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Posted by: kentish ( )
Date: June 18, 2020 06:03PM

No, no irregardless! Thank heavens for a regular computer.

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Posted by: MormonMartinLuther ( )
Date: June 17, 2020 10:47PM

Are ExMo Missionaries holding classes?

They could convert back the people who only learned enough English to work on a church farm.

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: June 18, 2020 04:38PM

For a moment, my brain did a flip and I read the title of this thread as

How to spite and wreak English

No, my real name is not Spooner.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: June 18, 2020 04:44PM

How to espy weak English

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