Growing up I was taught that everyone becomes white when they’re resurrected. I can’t find any scriptures or quotes from prophets stating this. Was anyone else taught this?
yes. it's an obvious takeaway if you read the Book of Mormon carefully. Early in 3 Nephi, some Lamanites who joined with the Nephites and converted were turned white again. The risen Lord is described as white; the Nephite congregation turn white when he touches them with his spirit. Everything holy and sanctified is white and delight-some.
I'm sure there are some direct quotes from Brigham Young or Joseph F. Smith to the effect as well.
The point is that skins of blackness like all other things in mortality are done away in the resurrection when everything is made whole again. God is white. Jesus is white. Mary is white. Adam and Eve were white. The human family was originally white until people like Cain or Laman and Lemuel screwed up and got their posterities turned a different color. It's all there in the mormon scriptures. You are not crazy. Many Mormons low-key believe this shit even if they won't say it. I believed it. I didn't know any better. It's God-awful wrong, wrong, wrong, but there it is.
Thank you for your reply. So when people become righteous they become white, Mormons are inferring that resurrected beings must be white. Sure wish I could find a direct quote though.
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I'm curious if anyone high up has out and said it explicitly before. I have a copy of Mormonism and the Negro, an old tract defending the priesthood ban. I'll see if there's anything in there. I shall return and report.
But I can compile a list of BofM scriptures for you.
Jacob 3:8 - Jacob fears lest the Lamanites' skin will be whiter than the Nephites' skin at the last day (read: the ressurection) because of their sins. There's apparently some alignment between skin color and righteousness on judgement day.
2 Nephi 5:21-23 - God turns Laman and Lemuel and their families dark-skinned for rebelling against him. They were originally white and exceedingly fair and delightsome, and God gave them loathsome ethnic features that they might not be enticing unto Nephi's people sexually.
2 Nephi 30:6 - modern BofMs change the wording of this verse from "white and a delightsome people" to "pure and delightsome people" in an effort to negate the original meaning of the verse. It was originally taken as a prophecy that some day the Lamanites would turn white again. And while this verse has been redacted, the theme remains in other verses.
3 Nephi 2:14-16 - Lamanites unite with the Nephites against the Gadianton robbers and it says "the curse" was taken from them and their skins became white like the nephites, and their sons and daughters became exceedingly fair.
3 Nephi 19: 25,30 - The light of the ressurected Lord's countenance shines on his praying disciples, and they become as white as the both countenance and the raiment of Jesus. TBMs sometimes postulate that this whiteness is just the ethereal glow that ressurected and translated being give off because they're so holy. But in light of the other verses, it might just be referring to skin color.
1 Nephi 11:13 - jesus' mother was exceedingly fair and white, even a virgin most beautiful and fair above all other virgins.
1 nephi 13:15 Nephi sees in vision that the American colonists were fair and white like unto the Nephites before they were slain.
Moral of the story: everyone's white until someone sins so bad that God puts a curse on their posterity, hence why the children of Adam and Eve have so much ethnic variation despite being only six thousand years old. But there is hope that one day that curse will be lifted, if not in this life then definitely in the resurrection. Jesus is white. His mother was white -- white as Caucasian pasty white. The Nephites were white. The assumption is that the Jews were always white. Everyone was white going back to Adam and Eve, who were created in the image of God who is white. Whiteness is godliness is purity is civilization which is closely tied to being Christian. What you've got to understand though is that this is just how white Christians thought of themselves in the world at that time. They didn't set out consciously to make characters white that they knew weren't white. They didn't think about it. It was just obvious. Mormonism isn't uniquely racist; it's just unique in the sense that a so-called prophet living at that time wrote a bunch of then-current prejudices down in his pseudopigrapha which became the founding text of the church and a test of its legitimacy, and now they're stuck with it. They have to put lipstick on the pig or admit that their religion was conceived by men, and what's cruel about this wishy-washiness is the many thousands of black and indigenous latter-day saints who fervantly believe this crap or are stuck somewhere between a testimony and their self-respect who could have a lot healthier view of themselves and their place in the world if the Brethren would just admit that those verses are the product of white supremacist worldview and they never happened. It would also ease up the consciences of a lot of white members who feel like they have to defend these verses, water them down, soften their blow, but often can't to their shame but also can't bring themselves to question the church.
These scriptures are perfect! Thank you. Also on the other thread I accidentally started someone posted this quote from Brigham Young: “When all the other children of Adam have had the privilege of receiving the Priesthood, and of coming into the kingdom of God, and of being redeemed from the four quarters of the earth, and have received their resurrection from the dead, then it will be time enough to remove the curse from Cain and his posterity. He deprived his brother of the privilege of pursuing his journey through life, and of extending his kingdom by multiplying upon the earth; and because he did this, he is the last to share the joys of the kingdom of God." (Brigham Young, JoD, vol. 2, p. 143)
It's my understanding that in mormon heaven, women, AKA baby-makers, do not have the power of thought or speech, existing only to bear children, this making the celestial kingdom a true heaven.
Joseph F. Smith taught this concept in at least one case, as per Wilford Woodruff's biographer, Matthias F. Cowley in Wilford Woodruff History of His Life and Labors AS RECORDED IN HIS DAILY JOURNALS:
He said in his journal of October that year that Aunt Jane the colored sister had been to see him. She was anxious to go through the Temple and receive the higher ordinances of the gospel. President Woodruff blessed her for her constant, never changing devotion to the gospel, but explained to her her disadvantages as one of the descendants of Cain.
In after years when President Joseph F Smith preached the funeral sermon of this same faithful woman he declared that she would in the resurrection attain the longings of her soul and become a white and beautiful person.
As many of you know I have been studying translations of Sumerian cuneiform tablet for many years now. One of these "the Lost Book of Enki" Proposes an alternative human creation story. Part of this talks briefly of the skin color of the newly created human. Now I don't care whether or not you accept this I am just putting it out here for your consideration
"Shaggy like the wild ones he was not, dark black his head hair was, Smooth was his skin, smooth as the Anunnaki skin it was, Like dark red blood was its color, like the clay of the Abzu was its hue. (Negroid genetically?)"
This would shed an entirely different light on white at ressurrection
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