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Posted by: wondering ( )
Date: July 21, 2020 10:19PM

We haven’t had this post in quite a while. So I thought I would ask.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: July 21, 2020 10:23PM

I'm reading your mind and you should be ashamed of yourself.

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: July 22, 2020 10:30AM

You should never be ashamed of "self". Be ashamed of actions but never of self!!!

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Posted by: ufotofu ( )
Date: August 08, 2020 02:30AM

You read my mind.

I was reading OP's mind too but you read it first.

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Posted by: Tevai ( )
Date: July 21, 2020 10:47PM

I just finished a newly-released book, on an unmentionable (on this board) subject, by Mary L. Trump.

Highly recommended for anyone who wants to understand the real life backstory.

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Posted by: catnip ( )
Date: July 21, 2020 11:26PM

I'm reading the same one. A view from the inside. Fascinating.

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Posted by: ufotofu ( )
Date: August 08, 2020 02:43AM

Tevai Wrote:
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> ... a newly-released book, on an unmentionable subject, by [Dr.] Mary L. Trump.
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> Highly recommended for anyone who wants to understand the real life backstory.

Titled- Too Little & Never Enough: How MY Family Created The World's Most Dangerous Man

She was interviewed on Democracy Now today. Good show! Must watch-listen. https://www.democracynow.org

https://www.democracynow.org/2020/8/7/mary_trump_how_dysfunctional_family_shaped

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Posted by: saucie ( )
Date: July 21, 2020 10:53PM

The Dark Side of Christian History by Helen Ellerbe

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Posted by: wondering ( )
Date: July 21, 2020 11:15PM

I’ve been switching between two books. The Book of Enoch and the unmentionable book Tevai is reading. Sometimes I get confused between the two.

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: July 22, 2020 11:36AM

wondering Wrote:
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> I’ve been switching between two books. The Book
> of Enoch and the unmentionable book Tevai is
> reading. Sometimes I get confused between the
> two.

Are you reading the Ethiopic Enoch or the Hebrew Enoch?

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Posted by: wondering ( )
Date: July 22, 2020 12:09PM

I am not sure. Didn’t know there were two.

It says translated by R H Charles. What is the difference, should I read the other one too?

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Posted by: Kathleen ( )
Date: July 22, 2020 12:23AM

“My Absolute Darling.”

Not for the faint of heart.

This book will remind you of families at church where you always wondered if something weren’t ... amiss.

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Posted by: Kathleen ( )
Date: July 22, 2020 12:49AM

^^^ My Absolute Darling by Gabriel Tallent.

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Posted by: knotheadusc ( )
Date: July 22, 2020 12:54AM

I’ll be reading the unmentionable book after I quit reading The Librarian of Auschwitz.

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Posted by: Nightingale ( )
Date: August 09, 2020 02:50PM

I just read that one, knotheadusc. I was fascinated by the title and amazed to imagine that the camp's inhabitants were "allowed" to have a library.

Then I read the book.

Oh.

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Posted by: Kentish ( )
Date: July 22, 2020 01:05AM

Heavy stuff here. I'm reading the latest from Daniel Silva, The Order. Waiting for the new James Lee Burke offering out soon.

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Posted by: Human ( )
Date: July 22, 2020 07:25AM

Just put down Henry Miller’s The Colossus at Maroussi, an account of a trip to Greece upon the invite of Lawrence Durrell.

In the middle of Emile Zola’s Germinal. It’s breaking my heart, and shocking me with its immediate relevance (alas).

For essays I have a few things going. Richard Cobb’s Paris and Elsewhere (NYRB) is fascinating, for one because Cobb is so fascinated. I’m halfway through a collection of Joan Didion.

Going away for a while and wondering what to take. Most likely my better half and I will trade Alice Munro stories to read.

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Posted by: loislane ( )
Date: July 22, 2020 08:31AM

tHE jOURNAL OF DISCOURSES.

bEING A cOURT REPORTER MYSELF, i AM VERY INTERESTED IN THE STENOGRAPHER WHO TOOK IT ALL DOWN.

tHAT STENOGRAPHER EVENTUALLY LEFT THE CHURCH.

i HAVE ORDERED IN FOR HIS BIOGRAPHY.
lOIS,

mILD MANNERED COURT REPORTER WHO HIT THE cAPSLOCK KEY

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Posted by: touchstone ( )
Date: July 22, 2020 09:28AM

Just finished "Between the World and Me" by Ta-Nehisi Coates. Next up is "The New Jim Crow" by Michelle Alexander, unless I decide I really need some brain-candy as a palate cleanser.

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Posted by: Twinker ( )
Date: July 22, 2020 09:41AM

Re-read • The Mayor of Casterbridge by Thomas Hardy

Book club reads:
• The Secret History by Donna Tartt (June)
• The Vanishing Half by Bret Bennett (July)
• The Great Alone by Kristin Hannah (August)

Finished since Covid:
• Not Into Night by Max Zimmer
• Horse Dancer by Jojo Moyes
• The Forest Unseen by David Haskell
• Talking to Strangers by Malcolm Gladwell

Presently reading:
• Why We Sleep by Matthew Walker
• The Girl from Widow Hills by Megan Miranda

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Posted by: Lethbridge Reprobate ( )
Date: July 22, 2020 09:48AM

Nothing memorable...

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Posted by: Lulu not logged in ( )
Date: July 22, 2020 10:00AM

These Truths, Jill Lapore.

Can't say that I love it although I'm picking up occasional bits of previously unknown to me important info.

Looking across the room I see Infinite Jest that I read some time ago. Highly recommend it.

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Posted by: Done & Done ( )
Date: July 22, 2020 10:15AM

Just finished The Hundred Year Old Man Who Climbed Out the Window and Disappeared. VEry very entertaining. Some big laughs.

Just started Night Boat to Tangier. Too soon to tell but stunning writing. Having trouble with the Old Irish vocabulary though but wanted to read something about crusty old men with heavy pasts. I can relate.

I read a long intense review of the unmentionable "Agent Orange" Book by the unmentionable family member. I got enough from that to know I couldn't take knowing any more of the ugliness at this moment.

I have "Barn 8" on the backburner. All fiction here. I can't handle any more reality. It's in your face everywhere all the time.

Reallly tempted to get The Death of Jesus--fiction sort of. Getting such amazing reviews.

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: August 07, 2020 11:08AM

Done & Done Wrote:
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> Just started Night Boat to Tangier. Too soon to
> tell but stunning writing. Having trouble with
> the Old Irish vocabulary though but wanted to read
> something about crusty old men with heavy pasts.
> I can relate.

I should write my memoirs.

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Posted by: Nightingale ( )
Date: August 09, 2020 03:24PM

Why? Are you a crusty old man? :)

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: July 22, 2020 10:28AM

I am still studying and evaluating what I consider to be one of the great translations of ancient Sumerian cunieform tablets.
The Lost Book of Enki

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Posted by: Kathleen ( )
Date: July 22, 2020 12:09PM

Reading Chad and Lori's horoscope.

Uh, oh.

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Posted by: librarian ( )
Date: July 22, 2020 04:46PM

I can't take any more reality stories either, so am binging on Brandon Sanderson'a epics.
The Stormlight Archive runs to 3,000 words in print form, and much more on my laptop.
For comic relief there is Terry Pratchet and Johanna Lindsey.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: July 22, 2020 10:26PM

"The Ring Around Rosie" is a fictional autobiography written by J. Mencken Froebush that details how Teddy Roosevelt spent his gap year in Bavaria, where he learned to be proud of his Irish brogues.

It's both an endearing 'coming of age' saga, as well as a sultry tell-all, with only the chokehold barred.

But there is not as much yodeling as I expected/hoped for. All in all, I gave it a 74; it was easy to dance to, but the words we're too big.

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Posted by: Devoted Exmo ( )
Date: August 07, 2020 12:58PM

Just finished:

The Wright Brothers by David McCullough
The Last Season by Eric Blehn
I'll Be Gone In the Dark by Michelle McNamera
Boys In The Boat by Daniel James Brown

Currently reading:

Stasiland: Stories From Behind The Berlin Wall by Denica Fairman
Napoleon: A Life by Andrew Roberts

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Posted by: knotheadusc ( )
Date: August 07, 2020 04:06PM

Stasiland is a fascinating book! Good choice!

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: August 07, 2020 04:18PM

And Andrew Roberts is the bomb. None of his books are bad.

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Posted by: Devoted Exmo ( )
Date: August 07, 2020 07:49PM

It's a great read but I find I have to pay really close attention.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: August 07, 2020 09:08PM

Yep. He does very serious books. Definitely not a bedtime novel.

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Posted by: librarian ( )
Date: August 07, 2020 03:09PM

Update since last post here.
The Rise and Fall of the Dinosaurs, by Steve Brusatte- very entertaining and scholarly.
Starting today -The Unconsoled by Kazuo Ishiguro.
May switch to a bodice ripper if things get too grim.

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Posted by: AntiGeorge ( )
Date: August 07, 2020 06:06PM

Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace. I needed something to do during lockdown so I took this challenge. I like his essays, not getting much out of this to be honest. Only 200 p in out of over 1000.

Stigma by Imogen Tyler. I make an effort to read extreme left texts from time to time, but this is my online book club's suggestion not my personal choice. As usual some of the right questions (and some wrong ones) with the wrong answers.

Ultramarine by Malcolm Lowry. A great novelist. Barely dipped into this one yet. No pun intended. Based on his experience on British freight ships pre-war.

The Geek Book of Sci Fi Cinema - self-explanatory title. Lazy choices and lazy writing, although I have learned some interesting things about the Lumière brothers.

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Posted by: Beth ( )
Date: August 09, 2020 02:43PM

w/r/t Infinite Jest - are you reading the endnotes? Those are essays, and if you like his essays, you'll like those.

I put that book down a few times thinking, "This is supposed to be good?" I gave it another shot on a camping trip, and I was hooked around page 100 when I started reading the endnotes that I'd been skipping because, well, they're endnotes and all the cool kids skip those. My favorite one is about the demise of the videophone. Once I realized what The Great Concavity is and WTF is going on with the Statue of Liberty, his snark grabbed me. In some ways his prescience is scary.

I don't know if I'd read IJ again. DFW was a Tier 1 asshole, hindsight being what it is. DFW reminds me of Faulkner. (I don't know what tier Faulkner is on.) Once you get what's going on in "The Sound and the Fury," it's good. Very good. I also like unreliable narrators, so there's that.

So I'd give IJ another shot. It *is* good. He had an interesting brain, and that thing is on full display. DFW was supposed to be the next great American novelist representing Gen X. Maybe he was. That's one angsty book. It's a well-deserved notch on your belt.

ETA: Don't read any plot summaries. Figure it out on your own. If something is written in French and you don't know French, look that up. Otherwise, don't spoil it for yourself.

EATA: The purple prose is a literary device. You have to roll with that. Like with the endnotes.



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Posted by: Twinker ( )
Date: August 07, 2020 06:36PM

Liane Moriarty

That woman can write!

Also read "The Husband's Secret". Same author.

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Posted by: looking in ( )
Date: August 07, 2020 09:47PM

I’m reading “How the Scots Invented the Modern World” by Arthur Herman. Learning lots about the Scottish Enlightenment and history.
And I’m sort of on a break from another book that I’m halfway through called “419” by Will Ferguson. It’s about the email scams that originate from Nigeria (where the area code is 419) told from the perspective of both a scammer and his victims. A very good read, but intense and I needed to put it aside for a while.



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Posted by: Lethbridge Reprobate ( )
Date: August 07, 2020 11:26PM

news mostly

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Posted by: Phantom Shadow ( )
Date: August 07, 2020 11:41PM

Read Mary Trump’s book, Bolton’s memoir, (tedious) Silva’s, which was fun but not his best.

Also finished The Devil: A New Biography. It is a history of what people thought about the devil through the ages.

I’ve got some history and political books to read, but I think I’ll download some mysteries next.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: August 08, 2020 12:02AM

That is heavy fare.

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Posted by: Kentish ( )
Date: August 08, 2020 12:41AM

Agree on latest from Silva. Not up to his standard.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: August 08, 2020 02:41AM

Until the End of Time, Brian Greene. A book speculating on the full history of the universe.

God: an Autobiography, franco Ferrucci. A quick read, and pretty funny. God was lonely in the void, and started creating stuff. He discovered that he can create, but can't uncreate. His creations have to run their course. The universe is pretty ad hoc, and a case of on the job training, something I've always thought.

On deck: In the Hands of the People: Thomas Jefferson.... , Jon Meacham

Napoleon: a Life, Andrew Roberts. I had an annual (or sometimes semi-annual) tradition with a friend of inflicting on each other books that we had read. His books to me were usually top shelf stuff, and this was the last one he gave to me, just as the pandemic kicked in. I saw up-thread where Lot's Wife pointed out this book is also top shelf. He passed away a couple weeks ago, untreatable stage 4 cancer, so I will move this one to the top of the queue to honor the memory of my friend. Gone too young.


In other news, Eric K made a comment recently about having to practice his music. It occurred to me that I should do some math practice. I do some sporadically, but there was something that I never learned how to do: draw a pentagon with straight edge and compass. So I dug out books, and went online, and found various ways to draw a pentagon. Most were complicated and unintuitive, but I found one that was considerably simpler and clearer. I wondered why the other explicators weren't aware of this. And why does it work.

That took me down a rabbit hole, that eventually led me to a fourth power polynomial of trig functions, something completely new to me. It was in such a form that the quadratic formula still worked even though it was fourth power. Pretty serious gymnastics for a problem that the Pythagoreans had solved in 600 BCE.

So I now can draw a perfect pentagon, and as a bonus know how to calculate the symbolic value of sin(pi/5). Pi/2, Pi/3, pi/4 and pi/6 are easy. Sin(pi/5) leads to that ugly equation.

OK, more than you wanted to know, but I had fun. ;)

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Posted by: Beth ( )
Date: August 09, 2020 02:23AM

I love Brian Greene. I can't wrap my mind around string theory.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: August 09, 2020 02:37AM

Basically anything by Roberts is excellent. His books tend to cluster around Churchill/WWII and Napoleon and are almost uniformly great.

If you are going to read Napoleon, I'd suggest Kissinger's A World Restored as a chaser. It gets a little enthusiastic in a couple of places but is the best volume in English on how Metternich and Castlereagh reconstructed Europe after the French destroyed it. The book is a primer in geopolitics, a discipline that is growing more relevant every day in our ill-starred times.

Until the End of Time is on my shelf, too. I used to think it was a love story but then somebody with an inordinate fondness for quadratic equations recommended it. I'm doing some professional stuff now but hope to move on to that in the near future.

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Posted by: Beth ( )
Date: August 08, 2020 01:34PM

Just read the Illiad for the first time. Hated the ending.

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: August 09, 2020 01:50AM

Also, Howie Carr's "What REALLY Happened," how "the most qualified candidate in history" got outfoxed.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: August 09, 2020 02:39AM

Sometimes "most qualified" does not translate into "most electable." A terrible candidate to be sure.

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Date: August 09, 2020 09:09AM


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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: August 09, 2020 10:37AM

I watched David Blight's Civil War / Douglass lecture series on YouTube (his voice sounds much like Harrison Fords) and I wanted to read the book, Found out some things that I didn't know.

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Posted by: Beth ( )
Date: August 09, 2020 02:55PM

Did you read Frederick Douglass's first autobiography?

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Posted by: Nightingale ( )
Date: August 09, 2020 03:02PM


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Posted by: Nightingale ( )
Date: August 09, 2020 03:04PM

The Final Journey by Gudrun Pausewang (translated by Patricia Crampton).

You can perhaps guess the subject by the book's title. It details a forced train journey taken by Jews in Germany. Unknown to them, their destination: Auschwitz.

It's a small book that packs a punch. A good example of show don't tell.

Gut-wrenching.

Not the usual light summertime read. You will know how it ends so no surprise there. Yet all the way through I kept hoping that somehow everything would be OK.

Heartbreaking.

For a change of fare, needing something more upbeat, I'm reading a book about famous Canadian women. It too is a very short book. :) (No offence to my country or its people!) And yes, so far, it's interesting and informative. With pictures. :)



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Posted by: meri ( )
Date: August 09, 2020 03:22PM

Just finished Too Much and Never Enough.


Catching up on the Dresden Files. I'm almost done with "Changes."

I've been also reading The Complete Heretic's Guide to Western Religion. Finishing up Jesus: Mything in Action.

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Posted by: Devoted Exmo ( )
Date: August 07, 2020 07:50PM

My daughter lived there for a while [East Germany] not long after unification. I can't remember which town, but the people there did long for the old days of low cost beer and sausages, etc.



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Posted by: Devoted Exmo ( )
Date: August 07, 2020 07:55PM

Did either of you see the move "Goodbye Lenin"

https://www.amazon.com/Good-Bye-Lenin-Kathrin-Sass/dp/B00G4LLZGW

It was excellent.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: August 07, 2020 11:54PM

Actually pretty similar to exMos who no longer believe, but attempt to keep up appearances for Mo relatives who would "just die" if they knew of exMo disbelief.

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Posted by: Devoted Exmo ( )
Date: August 08, 2020 11:42AM

Good analogy!

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Posted by: Der Wacher ( )
Date: August 09, 2020 08:46AM

Brother Of Jerry Wrote:
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> Actually pretty similar to exMos who no longer
> believe, but attempt to keep up appearances for Mo
> relatives who would "just die" if they knew of
> exMo disbelief.

Although Goodbye Lenin panders to sentimentality about the old East Germany, there are some very clever bits.

One of them is when the mother demands ?Spreewald pickles/gherkins, the old Communist East German brand and they can't find any, so they have to relabel some western ones. The mother tries them and says how much better they are than the usual pickles.

The implication here is that her view of East German life is not reflected in the reality. She supports her closed belief system over reality, even when it is proven to be inferior.

There are also some very clever hints about surveillance and snitching, like when she hears one of her neighbors watching Western TV.

At the end, when she abandons her "church", it turns out she didn't like it as much as she thought she did.

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