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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: September 27, 2020 04:10PM

a while ago, there was a 'controversy' about the YBU police sharing confidential info with the 'Honor's Office' (Oh, the IRONY of that!!!!).

I believe it was before state authorities bc of the question of the certification of the YBU police department...

https://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/report-shows-byu-police-officer-shared-private-police-reports-with-byus-honor-code-office/article_00d42d09-112a-5749-ad1f-6974c6746e92.html

Does anyone know how this has gone / resolved?

Yeah, it's a boring day, 'sorry'



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/27/2020 04:13PM by GNPE.

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Posted by: messygoop ( )
Date: September 28, 2020 01:47PM

Just like every other problem the church has handled, it has been properly swept under the rug.

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: September 28, 2020 02:05PM

messygoop Wrote:
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> Just like every other problem the church has
> handled, it has been properly swept under the rug.
Yes but with a sanitized broom!!!

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Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: September 28, 2020 02:51PM

Eventually, the Salt Lake Tribune won a Pulitzer by covering the whole story that unfolded from this. I wonder if they tell members that in Sunday school.

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Posted by: Gordon B. Stinky ( )
Date: September 28, 2020 04:47PM

I've been curious about this too. Inquired a couple months ago:

https://www.exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,2317219,2317274#msg-2317274


As messygoop noted, this will simply get swept under the rug.
Everyone will continue to ignore it, and it will go away. That's partly why I continue to ask about it. (Same with BYU "losing" its ROTC programs.)


The morg isn't about to give up its private police force. And their well-entrenched bureaucrats will make sure it never happens.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: October 01, 2020 06:24PM

Looks like GNPE was a few days early in asking.

https://www.sltrib.com/news/education/2020/10/01/byu-creates-new-security/

Looks like BYU is trying to skirt the law by having their police force that will do general policing, and a separate investigation force that will have access to police databases, but will NOT (in their humble opinion) be accountable under Utah public records laws that apply to police forces and public universities.

Can you say "weasel?"



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/01/2020 06:24PM by Brother Of Jerry.

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Posted by: [|] ( )
Date: October 01, 2020 11:19PM

https://www.sltrib.com/news/education/2020/10/01/byu-creates-new-security/

"Unlike police officers, they will not have the authority to make arrests or conduct traffic stops. And they will not have access to police databases, which were at the heart of the transparency issue with records at BYUPD"

To answer the OP's question, the next hearing is later this month

https://www.deseret.com/utah/2020/10/1/21497724/byu-forms-new-security-department-as-its-police-departments-future-remains-unclear

"The next hearing on the BYU police decertification process is scheduled for later this month. At that time, a judge could rule on a motion for summary judgment."

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Posted by: Heartless ( )
Date: October 02, 2020 12:56AM

Did you see they'll have 300 student employees?

In 2017 there were 33,500 students. So basically ine student security employee for 100 students.

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Posted by: messygoop ( )
Date: October 01, 2020 08:11PM


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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: October 26, 2020 09:44PM

That's just the hearing on BYU's motion for summary judgment, which is an opportunity for the respondent (BYU) to get the case thrown out before a trial.

The legal standard is whether the petitioner (Utah) has alleged all the requisite elements required by the statute. For this proceeding the judge assumes that everything the petitioner alleges is true. My guess is that the judge is going to conclude that all the elements of the case are there and hence that the respondent (BYU) must answer in a full trial. Bear in mind that motions for summary judgment are rarely successful.

So if the judge rules against BYU on this, the trial will be scheduled and discovery will proceed--revealing all sorts of things that the university and the church would like to keep confidential. That's where we're headed now.

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Posted by: Gordon B. Stinky ( )
Date: October 26, 2020 10:22PM

That sounds interesting!

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Posted by: Gordon B. Stinky ( )
Date: October 26, 2020 10:25PM

"Most of the personal information illegally shared by Rhoades was of women who were victims of sexual assault."

So that YBU could further victimize the victims.

Can't have those licked cupcakes around violatin' the H̶o̶n̶o̶r̶ Code of Conformity.

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