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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: November 18, 2020 04:36PM

Women, and dealing with them, is something I readily admit I think I know, but can't be certain I know I know.

Same with religious people. Having kinda, sorta been one, I feel I have a grasp on the concept, but they (the genuinely religious) still surprise me.

I'm iffy on the issues of "know thyself" and "to thine own self be true". The current of my life has slowed considerably and the shore is passing very slowly, and the views are nice, for which I thank many of you. To mangle a phrase, hard people are good to find.

Back to the original topic: There is very little that I know I know. But I don't mind. I don't have to be "right" to do right.

Primum non nocere

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Posted by: Cauda ( )
Date: November 18, 2020 04:58PM

At my age I try everyday to understand how people can overlook the concept original sin.

Learning about family systems, knowing the game through life experience. People do strange stuff that is hard to understand.

The norm is a Public mask. Goal is to hide shortcomings and misery. Seen all the crap. Kids being conditioned to ape after dysfunctional parents. That is original sin.

I know this. The fall is with us everywhere.

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Posted by: Done & Done ( )
Date: November 18, 2020 05:45PM

II don't know what I don't know. And, what I do know is suspect although I defend it with formidable surety. Learnt from being Mormon? OR from being human? What else you gonna do? That may be wrong, but . . . you never know.

At my age I'm not sure knowing even matters anymore. I do wish, though, that I knew what I know now sooner.

Now, as to "don't have be right to do right." Hmmmnnnn. I tend to do right which is often accomplished by taking the high road to get there and then I don't know if I did the right thing or not because something seems "off" with the high road.

Primum non nocere is nice, but I'm more Ut Fix Nocere cuz sometimes I'm like a bull in a china shop.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: November 18, 2020 05:49PM

Many of us probably become better as we age and so we've collectively helped the human race evolve from just another great ape.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: November 18, 2020 05:53PM

One drink. . .

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: November 18, 2020 07:24PM

Primum non nocere

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Posted by: Roy G Biv ( )
Date: November 18, 2020 05:59PM

Ask Donald Rumsfeld...he knows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REWeBzGuzCc

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Posted by: Done & Done ( )
Date: November 18, 2020 06:03PM

That was like the sequel to Who's on first.

Rumsfeld knows his knows---as far as we know.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: November 18, 2020 07:25PM

He puts the piss in epistemology.

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Posted by: ufotofuabbaufotofu ( )
Date: November 19, 2020 10:02AM

It's not hard to do right
But much harder to do left

Knowing isn't as important as being.
My job is to be me. And be free!

I know, I know-
What do I know?

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Posted by: Done & Done ( )
Date: November 19, 2020 10:12AM

My Dad said, "Son. Never explain yourself to anyone."

He never did tell me why.

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: November 19, 2020 10:23AM


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Posted by: Done & Done ( )
Date: November 19, 2020 10:50AM

It's extremely important that you fully understand how completely trivial that statement is.

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: November 20, 2020 03:23PM

It has a poetic completeness to it which is very pleasing: it is totally self-contained ;-)

I shall be quoting it.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: November 20, 2020 03:41PM

It sounds to me a lot like Oaks's "Jesus never apologizes" and Trump's version of the same thing.

Never retreat, never apologize, never explain.

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Posted by: adamisfree2006 ( )
Date: November 19, 2020 12:09PM

The ONLY thing I now know is that I don't know!

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: November 19, 2020 12:54PM

It can lead to ignorance or wisdom. Depends on where you find your bliss.

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Posted by: csuprovograd ( )
Date: November 20, 2020 01:23PM

Do you need to know?

If you know, what good is it?

If you don’t know, is your life not worthwhile?

Boredom, restlessness and feelings of not being on the cutting edge of society creates this ‘need to know’.

The reality is - “It just doesn’t matter” - Bill Murray (Meatballs)

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: November 20, 2020 01:34PM

How did Bill Murray avoid taking the next step: Nothing Matters?

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Posted by: csuprovograd ( )
Date: November 20, 2020 02:30PM

“Nothing matters”, implies that the word or concept of nothing is something that matters, which leads us to why? Because “it just doesn’t matter”...

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: November 20, 2020 03:15PM

So, on a scale of .01 equals the Solar System, .1 equals the Milky Way galaxie (I had a 1960 Galaxie!) and 1.0 equals the Universe...

Are humans effects with no cause?

or are humans causes with no effects?

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: November 20, 2020 03:24PM

And where does Sigma fit it into all this?

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Posted by: csuprovograd ( )
Date: November 20, 2020 03:32PM

Hmmph. Your ‘60 Galaxie trumps my ‘59 Galaxie...

Humans on your scale (based on their position in the XYZ graph) assign a value of +10 in terms of effect/cause/ego as values for X, Y and Z.

Cosmically, the universe endlessly snickers and sometimes guffaws at that premise.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/20/2020 03:32PM by csuprovograd.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: November 20, 2020 04:38PM

Plan Cosmically (comically?), live locally.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: November 20, 2020 04:51PM

As long as its not Heavenly Father's.

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Posted by: Adam the warrior ( )
Date: November 21, 2020 03:19AM

I think i know old dog is a good guy. I know i know that he is a very funny guy.

Thanks for all the laughs old dog through these very rough years of mine.

-Adam the warrior


P.S.- I still think about you, BYU boner and I crashing temple wedding receptions sometimes. Even once very recently and it made me laugh.

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