https://religiondispatches.org/dont-discount-evangelicalism-as-a-factor-in-racist-murder-of-asian-spa-workers-in-georgia/?fbclid=IwAR2YAXVBzZLom_Z4tdsYlfvxl_JnUTtKr3k90rLbQfYI-23LGGZZSUmkg9Q

DON’T DISCOUNT EVANGELICALISM AS A FACTOR IN RACIST MURDER OF ASIAN SPA WORKERS IN GEORGIA

"Joshua Grubbs, an assistant professor of psychology at Bowling Green State University who has published research on religion and attitudes toward sex told RD, “Sex addiction is simply not a credible defense for mass murder.” One of the most significant conclusions Grubbs’ research points to, however, is that conservative Christian men are prone to believe that they have pornography or sex “addictions,” even when they do not. Before he was apprehended by police, Robert Aaron Long was reportedly on his way to target the porn industry in Florida for violence similar to what he perpetrated in Georgia. "

How much more true is that statement for Mormonism, it convinces people that they have a sex addition, when they don't. They're just normal. Normal Young humans (and animals) masturbate. The US has a huge problem with Incels.



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and not the other way around.

Joe Smith and Co. tried to provide answers for all of the common questions of his era by putting them in "The Book Of Mormon."

Not so with the Evangelicals with a capitol "E."

They are seeking spiritual and psychological justification to do what they would do anyway. "I'm not racist, it's just what the Bible or God or whatever says."

You can use the Bible or religion to justify anything.

Not everyone is going to go out and kill to get rid of their problems, but some people do just that.



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anybody Wrote:
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> and not the other way around.
>
> Joe Smith and Co. tried to provide answers for all
> of the common questions of his era by putting them
> in "The Book Of Mormon."
>
> Not so with the Evangelicals with a capitol "E."
>
> They are seeking spiritual and psychological
> justification to do what they would do anyway.
> "I'm not racist, it's just what the Bible or God
> or whatever says."
>
> You can use the Bible or religion to justify
> anything.
>
> Not everyone is going to go out and kill to get
> rid of their problems, but some people do just
> that.

White Evangelicalism/Southern Baptism/Mormonism is a polite term for racism/White Supremacy/Sexism/Homophobia because it's white patriarchal authoritarianism, which is why the Bible Belt (Including Utah) is the brightest Red supporters of white supremacism.

"Sex addiction" is not an actual thing.

Dave the Atheist Wrote:
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> "Sex addiction" is not an actual thing.
I beg to differ with you
I had a friend who was so addicted to sex that she would walk into a bar and announce that she was evaluating male appendages for all night service.
She would then do so and pick one and leave with him for the night.
If that is not addiction I don't know what is

She would go to dive bars and find guys to use and abuse her.

She was Catholic, French Canadian from Vermont, and was abused by her four older brothers as a girl. Eventually, she told her parents but they refused to believe her. She felt worthless and that her only "value" in life was to be used as a human sex toy.

This from a girl who went to Catholic school and college.

consult your local psychologist.

Sex addiction is a thing. Of course it is NOT an excuse to cause harm to others, but it is a real thing. Extreme religion can absolutely exasperate the situation and intensify the pain and shame from it. Again, not an excuse for murder any more than an addiction to meth is, but shame is a real motivator for terrible decisions.

Aaron Wrote:
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> Sex addiction is a thing. Of course it is NOT an
> excuse to cause harm to others, but it is a real
> thing. Extreme religion can absolutely exasperate
> the situation and intensify the pain and shame
> from it. Again, not an excuse for murder any more
> than an addiction to meth is, but shame is a real
> motivator for terrible decisions.

I agree, sex addiction is a real thing, it's what killed my marriage to my ex wife and mother of our 4 children, who I finally managed to convince at age 40 that Joseph Smith was just an abusive asshole sexual predator.
The way she saw it, everything she held sacred, turned out to be really just a great big perverted lie.
She suddenly dropped 35lbs, decided to go get plastic surgery and flirt, drink, do drugs with other guys and girls at the bar. Next thing you know she's got an insatiable appetite for sex and can't get enough of it. After I caught her cheating on me, I forgave her, then I caught her again and I filed for divorce.
Fortunately we both went our separate ways and I got remarried and she is in a stable relationship, kids are raised and none are Mormon and neither is any of my family.
Religion can fuck you up in a lot of ways, especially sexually.
I blame religion for a lot of dysfunction and suffering in America and the world. It's responsible for a hell of a lot of child abuse and bigotry in the world.



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And here is the axe to grind, the disdain the secularists have against the Evangelicals, "that is a complex of beliefs and practices associated with an unhealthy fear of sexuality and intense pressure to remain “pure”—that is, sexually inexperienced—before marriage."

They hate that youth pastors teach abstinence before marriage. Respecting women's virtue is now a reason for murder. The logic of the illogicals speaks again.

christian priviledge again

"They hate that youth pastors teach abstinence before marriage. Respecting women's virtue is now a reason for murder. The logic of the illogicals speaks again."


Maca, how did you come by this piece of news?


There is no "hatred" against Evangelicals (or Catholics or Mormons) for their religion. It's about repression and what they do to others. The only culture "war" against you is in your own mind. Just telling people not to have sex doesn't work. I'm always amazed how so-called "primitive" tribal cultures integrate sex and sexuality into normal everyday life and don't have the moral hang ups that "modern" people do.


Here's the difference -- from a real-life, pragmatic, common-sense secular liberal person:


"It would be better not to have sex before you are an adult or emotionally ready, but if you just have to do it, this is what you need to know and this is what happens." Things like sex education, basic human reproduction, debunking myths and urban legends (i.e. Mountain Dew), making contraception available, teaching people about consent and the law, etc.


But if you do that, people have control over their lives. Each individual decides how, when, and under what circumstances they allow others to have sex with them.


You are always talking about "choice." Well, that's what this is -- giving people a choice to decide and guidance about what to do with their own lives.

Salem High School Shooting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritage_High_School_(Conyers,_Georgia)#Shooting


Documentary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz7qh_Luvjw

This documentary was shown in 1999. Nowadays, teens have seen more porn by the time they are in high school than their parents did as adults. This is why teaching sex education and basic human reproductive biology is important. "Abstinence Only" doesn't work.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/georgia/etc/press.html


The Dallas Morning News Manuel Mendoza
"...Shocking and explicit without sensationalizing, 'The Lost Children' is filled with frank talk from parents, educators, health workers and articulate teens. While it explores many possible explanations, the 90-minute documentary never tries to pin blame on any particular factor, be it peer pressure or parental indifference.

In fact, the film is all the more powerful because it fails to come up with a simple answer or any signs that the situation has changed. Despite the publicity surrounding the syphilis outbreak, including community meetings, most teenagers in Rockdale County have never heard of it, the Goodmans conclude.

Devastating honesty marks not only the interviews with the kids, but also the ones with their parents, some of whom readily admit to both spoiling and neglecting their children, the former often a method of the latter...

'The Lost Children' mentions the shooting at Heritage High School that put Conyers on the 'troubled teen' map, but the Goodmans were wise not to abandon the incredible story they had started to gather for the one that captured headlines.

It's probably too much to hope for, but their film deserves that kind of national attention."

The Atlanta Constitution Drew Jubera

"...Tonight's chilling 'Frontline' presentation centers on the binge decadence of suburban high school kids outside Atlanta.

The 90-minute documentary, which includes explicit sexual descriptions that might startle some viewers, plays like a real-life companion to the new film ' American Beauty': a dark-side tour behind the suburbanscape that once defined the American dream, but which a recent trail of school shootings has reconstructed for some into an updated version of the American nightmare...

What emerges from tonight's emotional travelogue is a dark, darkly heart- breaking terrain --- a kind of neutron-bombed community where houses are intact but families are shattered. Careerist parents work long hours to provide kids with material wealth, but give up on giving the contact and structure they need. Kids turn their lack of direction into a mandate to veer out of control...

The last third provides some of the film's most disturbing images --- three young girls use their stuffed toy animals to demonstrate the complex couplings of group sex. But it also underscores the documentary's weakness. Teens here are either sex-mad or devoutly Christian virgins. How the forces of these extremes affect those in the vast, confusing middle is left mostly unexplored.

Still, the overall effect is so disturbing it's as hard to imagine parents not rushing afterward to talk with their teens as it is hard to imagine their teens not talking back. 'The Lost Children of Rockdale County' demonstrates just how rare that would be."



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tell us about global warming.

The guy was clearly deranged. It amazes me that anyone is taking his statements about sex addiction or racism seriously. I’m pretty sure self awareness is not his strong suit.

Exactly. I found it eye rolling to think he was fine with murdering to remove temptation but somehow didn't consider murder a bigger transgression.

Good thing Georgia doesn't have a "Imma-buy-a-gun-'n-shoot-the-son-of-a-bitch!" waiting period, or the shooter would have had time to carefully construct a much more heinous plan.


Yeah, yeah, I know the right to drive a car is not built into the Bill of Rights.

Please try to remain calm...

Suppressed guilt kills.

how after every monstrous event there is a mass scurry to find out why, to explain it, so as to put a crashed world back together and make everything safe again? To try explain how this person is a monster?

The worst atrocities in the combat zone were at the hands of decent, normal, respectable citizens.
Usually they get medals.

Dr. No Wrote:
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> how after every monstrous event there is a mass
> scurry to find out why, to explain it, so as to
> put a crashed world back together and make
> everything safe again? To try explain how this
> person is a monster?
>
> The worst atrocities in the combat zone were at
> the hands of decent, normal, respectable citizens.
>
> Usually they get medals.

Yeah I do notice that.
Ever notice after a mass shooting, how every body comes together and makes a memorial to the people who were victimized? To try to make sense of it all?
I think it's a way we have of humanizing the event, showing our kids that we're not all monsters, some of us have empathy and compassion for those victims who died and their loved ones they left behind. Because those victims were real people, with moms and dads and kids who loved them.
It's a hard thing to do.