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Posted by: madeguy ( )
Date: April 06, 2021 05:13PM

You don't want to be a Mormon anymore, but you still like living among Mormons, who act as a buffer between you and the great unwashed, whom you don't understand, can't relate to.

Leaving the nest is the best thing you can do for yourself. It is scary, but the rewards are great. Maybe it's time.

Take a deep breath, just get away. Forget the whole thing.

We don't know how much we don't know.

There is great beauty outside the cave. Unimaginable treasures that raise living to a higher level.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: April 06, 2021 07:06PM

I grew up within radio listening range of NYC, then spent half of my working life in the Midwest, half in Utah. I moved back to Utah when I retired because my parents were old and in failing health.

Now most of my friendships are here, And I like the mountains. Plus it’s just too damn much trouble to move.

For a large majority of the time, Mormonism has very little affect on my life. The TBM part of my family has passed away. Nobody I know well enough to know what their religion is, is active LDS.

I know it helps having not grown up here, and having no real family roots here, but for me, it’s just a reasonably nice place to live. Not that much baggage.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/06/2021 07:06PM by Brother Of Jerry.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: April 06, 2021 07:13PM

I'm looking into retiring at a Federal Minimum Security prison, where I will cause enough of a ruckus to always be in Solitary Confinement.

This Covid-19 experience has taught me that being 'alone' ain't no big thing, see? Or does I have to get rough with youse?

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: April 07, 2021 10:41AM

elderolddog Wrote:
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> I'm looking into retiring at a Federal Minimum
> Security prison, where I will cause enough of a
> ruckus to always be in Solitary Confinement.
>
> This Covid-19 experience has taught me that being
> 'alone' ain't no big thing, see? Or does I have to
> get rough with youse?
dialog correction
It should be "wit youse" not "with youse" Will you kindly be more perfect like the rest of us here?

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: April 07, 2021 12:39PM

Noted!

Remember, I'm younger, and thus not as well edumacated ...

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: April 07, 2021 08:31PM


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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: April 07, 2021 08:38PM

That's Adamic, right?

Way cool!

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Posted by: Done & Done ( )
Date: April 07, 2021 10:57AM

I wasn't afraid. I like your post a lot though. Can your unwanted past still be a security blanket?

As a BIC in the heart of it all, I was still an extreme voyeur of the outside world, even as a young kid, I was totally hooked on Life and Look. (For you younger ones, those were magazines, not Apps.) I devoured them while the others were sneaking their Playboys out from under their mattresses. Yea, verily, even articles about New York City and the goings-on there.

I never could buy that the notion that the rest of the nonMormon world, the Gentiles, were to be feared and looked down on. It all looked damn good to me. And I suppose that is where my Cog-Dis came from since in those days there was no Google to serve up the real dirt on Mormonism and give me some proper Cog-Dis.


I left Utah in an old car with a U-Haul in tow and headed to SoCal with $200 not really sure where I would end up. I had to join the world. Just HAD to. I was terrified and excited about what was ahead, but not afraid to leave Utah in the dust.

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Posted by: madeguy ( )
Date: April 07, 2021 01:34PM

Good for you. I hoped it worked out well for you. Leaving the nest is harder in a strongly regulated society like Mormonism, but we all have to do it if we want to grow. The world has plenty of strange things to discover. It's my duty to investigate everything.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: April 07, 2021 02:02PM

Unfortunately, he turned into a known capitalist . . .

Ah, what might have been!

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Posted by: Done & Done ( )
Date: April 07, 2021 02:39PM

If only.

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Posted by: thegoodman ( )
Date: April 07, 2021 01:43PM

Screw that. I'm not going to give up my family just because the church is holding them hostage. The great thing about not being a believer anymore is that nobody gets to tell me how I should live anymore.

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Posted by: cl2notloggedin ( )
Date: April 07, 2021 02:32PM

My boyfriend lived there and I went to live with him. He lost his job and got one in Logan, Utah. He will be retiring soon and is going to spend part of his time on an island in Canada (Cortez or Cortes island where his daughter lives) and part of the time in Denver where his son lives. I'll go and spend time with him wherever he is at. I have a paid for house with an ex living downstairs who pays all the bills since I didn't divorce him and take half his pension. My daughter is here half the year.

I might end up in Alaska summers if they are able to have any children. I'll go babysit while they work for Princess. They are working this summer for land tours and leave the beginning of May. My siblings are all here except one in Idaho (Twin Falls area) as she hates Utah, but she is still active mormon (no longer believes).

The mormons usually don't bug me. Once in a while they do. I'm not exactly that social. I have too much else going on to worry about the mormons even if I'm surrounded by them.

Utah is my home. I don't NEED to leave. I'll die in this house. I worked so very hard to hang onto it as a single mother. It is my sanctuary.

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Posted by: dogbloggernli ( )
Date: April 07, 2021 08:51PM

I've lived in three other states than Utah, nor am I from Utah. But Utah has my favorite recreation options.

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Posted by: olderelder ( )
Date: April 07, 2021 10:42PM

I lived in the MoZone only for my junior and senior years of high school, and for college (USU). So leaving after graduation was no big deal. Besides, it was the only choice that made sense for my career plans.

I moved to Los Angeles. Although the church was there if I wanted it, it was very easy to ignore, very easy to make new friends and a new life that had nothing to do with Mormonism.

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Posted by: Phantom Shadow ( )
Date: April 09, 2021 12:43AM

By age 16 I wanted out of Utah. I would go to NYC and become a journalist. But I would return to settle down.

Then on my mission I met a guy from California. (Long story skipped over.) I married him and moved to CA. (Another long story.) At one time I said I'd move back to Utah for a million dollars--this was when a million meant something.

Then we left the church. Funny thing, most of my CA in-laws have moved to Utah.

I love the mountains. I love my family history in Utah.

I won't go back.

Thanks for giving me a chance to say all of this.

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