Here is a youtuber that I have been following for years now and I always felt that she would leave Mormonism at some point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvUa7_5ztOA

at 18:57 she says "it is terrifying to think that if I tell someone I could get excommunicated".

John Dehlin got excommunicated for Mormon stories. I resigned before the bishop could call me in his office for apostasy. The church is false there is plenty of evidence to prove the falseness. In her video I could feel her pain of discovering uncomfortable things about the ds church. Been there, done that.

I think that there are two different paths from a psychological perspective, out of the church. I once believed that the church was true and so instead of stopping my belief in the church first, the first step for me was to get very angry with God for putting such a corrupt and evil and abusive organization on earth to represent him. I believed that God was the abuser. So I decided that he may be all powerful, but the one thing he lacked the power to do was to get me to agree that the abusive treatment coming from his leaders on earth was acceptable to me. He could kill me, send me to hell or outer darkness or whatever else he wanted to do. But my contempt the Mormon church would remain, regardless of what he did to me. If God was abusive then I wanted no part of him. It was only a few years after I officially resigned from the church that it dawned on me that maybe God wasn't to blame. Maybe the church wasn't true at all.

I imagine that some people take the other path. They resign from the church because they believe that it is a fraud and doesn't represent God at all. They don't really care what God wants them to do or blame him. They just want out and they don't hold him responsible.

I think there are different implications and adjustment mechanisms that work, depending on which path out you take. I feel like I got a clean break-away. I have no desire to go back. In my mind, they are wrong and I am right, even if I were to be the only person on earth to hold that belief, I can live with that. It's my truth and even God can't change my mind, at least not with the help of his Mormon minions. If he appears to me in all of his power and glory, I'll reconsider if that's what he asks me to do. If I had simply decided that I didn't want to be a church member anymore because it's probably a fraud, that's a completely different mindset.

I never 'knew' the church was true.

But I 'knew' that the faith in the church of many of the people I admired was true. I could bear testimony that they 'knew' it was true. I had faith in these people.

Then I had my temple experience and I 'knew' that the mormon church was man-made. It modified my feelings for all those really great people. They were still the same great people, but I knew that while they were definitely living wonderful, wholesome lives, a delusion was involved.

Sort of like a game... They were playing by the rules, as they knew them, and so many nice adjectives attached to them... I still had a lot of respect for them, but less respect than previously. Why couldn't they see mormonism for the charade that it was, even back then?

And now! It's a joke! A joke that continually gets watered down and if those currently in charge have their way, will make mormonism pretty much just a very rich, run-of-the-mill Christian church.

"Joseph Smith? Oh, he was essential at the time, but now he is mostly just a footnote... We've moved beyond him and what he understood of things way back then."

But mormonism still costs 10% of your increase, so we can't say that mormonism as a belief, and as a way of life, has been cheapened, now can we?

They know there’s no Santa at the North Pole but still sit on Mall Santa’s lap.

Mormonism has been watered down and shortened down lol from 3 hours to 2 hours each Sunday.I don't think that tithing will ever change. 10% needs to be paid. Now here it is another apostasy trial.
https://youtu.be/uV7pJ2Q-2Hg

In just a few years down the road, the mormon church will amend the plan of salvation to accommodate the LBGTQ community and make it possible for them to get to the Celestial kingdom too. The church will claim that they never really acted with prejudice at all. God made them do it. They were just following orders and they don't know why God made them do it. That got them off the hook about their institutionalized racial prejudices of the past. Why not use it again? The point is that if you wait long enough, the Mormons will believe just about anything you want them to believe.

If they excommunicate this woman for teaching sex therapy today, they'll be teaching the same things themselves eventually.

A while back the lds church discouraged the use of birth control now they say it is between the couple and the lord how many children they will bring to this earth. They used to have a big stand against oral sex. Now they say it is between husband and wife. Growing up they did not mention pornography as much. I know a lds woman who went to her ob/gyn because on her wedding night it would not go in. The ob/gyn said that her body is healthy and that she should be able to have a penis in her vagina. This person ended up having 4 babies 4 vaginal birth. Sad story she committed suicide at age 39 leaving her husband a widower with 4 children. People like Natasha are so needed in the lds community. My first gyn visit I was 20 years old because of a yeast infection. Anyway mormon up bringing made it very hard for me to schedule a gyn appointment because I felt so embarrassed.Almost like good girls don't need to see a gyn. To be able as lds women to ask another lds woman questions that are of a sexual nature is so important.

> To be able as lds women to ask
> ask ... questions that are of a
> sexual nature is so important.


I swear, we in the Priests' Quorum were always willing to spread knowledge to those who thirsted for it. It's good to share!

elderolddog Wrote:
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> > To be able as lds women to ask
> > ask ... questions that are of a
> > sexual nature is so important.
>
>
> I swear, we in the Priests' Quorum were always
> willing to spread knowledge to those who thirsted
> for it. It's good to share!

Lol! I was thinking more medically, here is an example.


https://www.patheos.com/blogs/mormontherapist/2010/02/i-have-vaginismus-and-my-husband-doesnt-seem-interested-in-sex.html