If I am in the business of marrying people as a minister of the Universal Life church could I still retain membership in the Mormon church

I don't see why not. You can retain your membership and be a Democrat. ;)

I don't see why not. I have the Universal Life Church thing too and have married many couples.

You don't join the church as a member if I recall, and the marriages are legal.

But if your doing ULC marriages, I don't know why you would want to still be a member of the church formerly known as mormon.

I suppose if they knew about it, they might not approve though.

I think your doing that just to drive us Grammar Nazis mad.

No, sometimes I just make mistakes and don't catch them. However, now that I've found what could be a chink in the armor, I may start. You're welcome and thank you very much.

Your local librarians must love you!

There's no librarian by the little cabinet of books on the telephone pole down on the corner. But yes, librarians do love me....very odd....now and then a random woman just walks up and offers herself to me and I always ask....are you a librarian? To which the answer is always a resounding YES!

It must be my resemblance to the Dewey decimal system.

Or even John Dewey himself!

thaank you I've performd a few but I am presently in Utah and who knows what the rules are here?

I would keep it on the downlow as far as your bishop and fellow ward members are concerned, but you will probably be fine.

How about being a department store Santa Claus, if you've got the Melchezidek priesthood? Do they mind if you do that?

i think yore bean a gramma nit picker, two

Hey, with Roy it's always a question of finding what he calls a chink in his armor--and there aren't many!

Why would anyone expect them to have a consistent policy on such questions. I can remember when they denied temple recommends to dealers in Las Vegas but it was perfectly okay for singers and such entertaining the punters in casino theaters.

kentish Wrote:
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> Why would anyone expect them to have a consistent
> policy on such questions. I can remember when
> they denied temple recommends to dealers in Las
> Vegas but it was perfectly okay for singers and
> such entertaining the punters in casino theaters.
A late cousin of mine owned a casino in Las Vegas and until he sold it he was denied a temple recomend



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Memory tells me it was a big issue many years ago. Since the ultimate goal of casinos is to get people to gamble I'm not sure why one job in them is okay and another not okay. Wonder if those rules still apply.

During that time I did get free tickets to see Donny and Marie perform and a short time later went to see Don Rickles, one of my favorite comedians. I took some visitors from England. They didn't know anything about Rickles but they were pretty impressed that we had seats right behind Telly Savalas whose TV show was pretty big in the UK at that time.

To be a Universal Life church minister, is that the thing where you fill out something online and they email you a certificate saying that you are now a minister?

If it is, years ago I had my 7-iron golf club ordained.

I listened to several hours of John Dehlin's private meetings with church leaders (several meetings with his Bishop and several meetings with his Stake President) that he secretly recorded and that are now up on the Mormon Stories podcast website.

At one point before starting the tape for play back to us, John Dehlin said that he became a minister of another church only for the purpose of officiating as the minister in the marriage of a personal friend of his. It was one of those 'you pay us and we mail you the certificate' types of being a minister. But it did get recorded somewhere, where his Stake President found out about it.

Later in the tape, Dehlin's Stake President outlines a long list of things that Dehlin has to do to avoid excommunication. The Stake President cites the source of his knowledge about Dehlin's ministerial certificate. He then tells Dehlin that one condition (amongst everything else on the list that Dehlin must do) is that Dehlin must resign his minister status in the other church, to avoid being excommunicated. I don't think that Dehlin complied with anything on that list. And he was later excommunicated.

If you want to listen to some really non-confrontive but uncomfortable conversation between a man and his Bishop and Stake President, this is it. Dehlin remained humble and honest (other than by hiding a tape recorder and then telling the church leaders that he wasn't recording anything - you can hear him agreeing not to record anything at one point, right on the secretly recorded tape). The injustice heaped upon him escalated to amazing levels as he just shook his head and said "ok", and then asked questions followed by even more abuse against him. It confirmed for me just how bad mormonism is.

https://www.mormonstories.org/podcast/the-excommunication-of-john-dehlin-my-bishop-and-stake-president-interviews/