I have literally watched all of her videos on youtube. If there is one piece of advice I would like to give to her it would be "slow down". Finding out that Mormonism is false turned my life upside down. It takes time to find a new way of living. Leaving Mormonism, stop wearing garments, take down the wedding pictures, take of the wedding ring, getting a divorce, getting a tattoo "faith', all within a few weeks is going really fast. Go to a non-lds marriage counselor, give your husband some time to deal with all your new discoveries. It took me months of going back and forth the church is false but maybe it could still be true? Joseph Smith made some mistakes but could he still have brought the truth back as an imperfect man? I was not able to sweet talk polygamy or polyandry. Joseph went behind Emma's back with other women. So I thought to myself alright Joseph smith was a sketchy man but Brigham Young (BYU) he was the prophet who was a righteous man. Wow did I read quotes from Brigham Young he is just as bad as Joseph smith. 2020 I learned about the "Rainy Day" Fund worth billions. It really takes time to take it all in, the multiple first visions, the sear stone all that.
Yeah...Slllloooooooooowwwwww doooooooooownn. I hope she and the soon to be ex-husband do not descend into a bitter divorce. I felt a little uncomfortable when she was holding back on bad mouthing CJ. What ever his problems are, the super-classy thing is to not give us an idea that he has more problems than we have already heard about. That was my one cringe moment in the video where she tells us that. I wonder if the LDS law arm will help CJ lawyer-up thinking about custody of kids and what not. In the chess game of life, one might need to appear to be thinking before letting your opponent know you have moved.
At 26:52 minutes in he tries to proof that the church is true to her.Sadly in my own faith journey I used to read FAIRMormon because I just knew that Mormonism had to be true. Reading mormonthink felt like reading something forbidden that I should not do. It took me months to accept that it is all made up. The fuzzy feelings that I had at young women's camp must have been the holy ghost saying to me that this is the true church. Slowly I found out that young women's camp is made to create those feelings. By singing songs together and by listening to faith promoting stories. I was a stay at home mom when we left the lds church and my so called Mormon mommy friends would not talk to me anymore once we resigned our membership. Those friendships were fake friendships based on church attendance and temple worthiness and I broke the contract and left the club. She needs to take it slow and not throw out the baby with the bath water.
I remember when I gave myself permission to look at any source and go beyond anything 'church approved'. It felt like I was doing something extremely forbidden and that I had to cover my tracks so as to not get caught...the imagined consequences would be worse than getting caught with porn. Mormonthink was certainly more helpful and insightful than FAIR or the church website.
Funny you mention girl's camp. My daughters have been attending for a while... every year I tell them "remember to bear FERVENT testimony when the time comes." And I tell them that is what it is all about. I think that helps them realize at some level what is going on there. When I pick them up I ask if they bore FERVENT testimony. They alway tell me they don't. I think they are inoculated from the emotional manipulation.
The scripture that flashes at the time stamp you mention as Haleigh is shown in the Bible the truthiness of it all... she should have pulled out the JW Bible just to freak him out and show how screwed up all the 'scriptures' can be. The JW version is nothing short of a verbal shitshow. It is beautiful inthat it is a masterpiece of smeared verbal 'muerde'.
Her marriage. In my opinion she should not talk about her husband's issues online that is his story to tell. He is a chiropractor and if a patient googles his name Haleigh's videos are coming up.
subeamnotlogedin Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Her marriage. In my opinion she should not talk > about her husband's issues online that is his > story to tell. He is a chiropractor and if a > patient googles his name Haleigh's videos are > coming up.
Yeah, I thought that was totally classless on her part.
I could not stand listening for more than 5 minutes. This Ex-Mormon makes the Mormon church sound like a progressive force. And I am a very conservative person myself (though secular).
She seems flaky to me. As you listen to her describe her life she's all over the place. I don't think she has any idea who she is or what she wants. Such people leave broken marriages, disfunction, lot's of moves and not really a dedication to anything.
The church seems to appeal to flaky and guliable people looking for some magical solution to their life. All I can say is there are no free lunches or magical solutions. People who believe in such are fodder for the predators and snake oil salesmen.
Hey, be nice to the Cat. He understands that humans are like dogs, some bred for physical labor and some for intelligence. In his words, Asians and Jews are the Collies of the canine world and blacks and whites like him are stolid St. Bernards, fitter for dragging things around than reading and thinking and such.
Rest assured that as a Laminate, you carry lots of Asian DNA and are therefore much brighter than the stentorious El Gato.
Needs to be in slow motion with an explosion behind you and you continue walking in stride... like in the movies. Of course it is all symbolism..not suggesting the explosion is anything other than pyrotechnics for effect. One might even utter the words "Yippi Ki Yay Mother F*****"
First, an aside. She did a 5 hour interview with John Dehlin?! Nixon-Frost might have been worth 5 hours, but seriously. Dehlin is too in love with the sound of his own voice, IMHO. Sheesh.
The first two reasons she lists that gave her serious pause about LDS Inc were 1) that they closed down church services and temples because of the pandemic? They interfered with her <bleeping> God-given right to infect? Oh, the humanity.
Second was she heard that a GA donated to the Biden campaign? What, if the church were inspired, God would never allow that to happen?
That's when I decided I really didn't need to hear more. Deep insight was not likely to be revealed. It went off the rails in the first two yards.
She is a total flake. She had a new video pop up on my Youtube recommendations, so I watched it. Quick summary -in April she was in a good place with her husband, and now in mid July she is getting divorced and is in a committed relationship and totally in love with a man she just met last month.
I get that people can have different experiences, but wow she is all over the place. And the fact that she outs her husband and throws him under the bus is completely classless. She is pretty, but toxic. I wouldn't want anything to do with her.
"I never saw a dame yet that didn't understand a good slap in the mouth or a slug from a 45." (Humphrey Bogart's "ghost" from Woody ALlen's script, "Play It Again, Sam.")
Why am I so obsessed with Haleigh? Because I want to yell at her to slow down. She just got divorced this year after 5 years of marriage. She has two small children. She has lost her faith in Mormonism. She has only met this new man Mark this year. And she wants another baby. Ofcourse I wish her all the happiness in the world with her new marriage. Healing takes time and this looks like a rebound to me. Is it all so rushed so she can have sex within marriage? I remember feeling so guilty drinking my first cup of coffee at age 33 in 2013 when I left Mormonism. Now I enjoy my coffee every morning without any guilt. In her interview with John Dehlin earlier this year she was still married to CJ. Divorce and change of religion are two main events in one year time span and now she added a 3rd event another marriage to it. Probably next year will come another baby. She needs to slow down. Replacing the void or emptiness quickly could lead to a disaster.
subeamnotlogedin Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Why am I so obsessed with Haleigh? Because I want > to yell at her to slow down. She just got divorced > this year after 5 years of marriage. She has two > small children. She has lost her faith in > Mormonism. She has only met this new man Mark this > year. And she wants another baby. Ofcourse I wish > her all the happiness in the world with her new > marriage. Healing takes time and this looks like a > rebound to me. Is it all so rushed so she can have > sex within marriage? I remember feeling so guilty > drinking my first cup of coffee at age 33 in 2013 > when I left Mormonism. Now I enjoy my coffee every > morning without any guilt. In her interview with > John Dehlin earlier this year she was still > married to CJ. Divorce and change of religion are > two main events in one year time span and now she > added a 3rd event another marriage to it. Probably > next year will come another baby. She needs to > slow down. Replacing the void or emptiness quickly > could lead to a disaster.
I am strangely fascinated by her as well. She honestly seems to be quite a flake, jumping from one thing to another. She seems to be one of these people who need chaos. Wish her well, but honestly not holding out hope that her new marriage will last.
A thought: take your time, Z-Man, to let your heart heal. > > ziller is not in a position to accept any more > wives of this type at this time ~
How about wives of another type? > > > plz pray for CJ and his children and this new > hubby ~ > > "letting go" indicates an advanced state of spiritual Recovery. Bill W would approve.