Hi, in this episode at 3 hours and 22 minutes in he talks about North Star.https://youtu.be/jSq3S51fboM
They have cuddle parties that the men should not tell their wives about it.

All or most of you know my story.

I have a close family member through marriage who has a brother heavily involved in North Star and is in some leadership position. He overshares on facebook about North Star in what feels like bragging. I suspected for years that he was gay. He is married to a woman. My heart breaks for her. tick, tick, tick.

https://www.northstarlds.org/

It purports to be a place where gay mormons can find community and still be part of the church.

Thanks gemini-

It's nice when someone explains something, and even posts a link, when the OP doesn't.

Otherwise Northstar sounds like any other misleading LDS platitude.

I assumed that people on here know about Evergreen and North Star.

https://archive.sltrib.com/article.php?id=57344806&itype=cmsid
BYU used to do conversion therapy

https://time.com/5741789/utah-conversion-therapy-ban-lds/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biGQs20JhW0

Today in the year of 2021 the lds church still is promoting the people who have same gender attraction marry the opposite gender although it has been proven over and over that this does not work in the long run.

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/local/2018/01/30/yearning-for-a-romantic-attachment-they-never-had-gay-mormon-josh-weed-and-his-straight-wife-are-divorcing-after-15-years/

In the year 2021 North Star is promoting "cuddle parties". Many people have suffered with their teachings and they are still teaching it.

Hi subeam-

I wasn't familiar
Sounds awful....

Like Mormonism oft is

What is northstar?

When your Cadillac breaks down.

haha...perfect Kathleen!

I just read the northstar.org website. I'm speechless. I read one of the profiles. https://www.northstarlds.org/voh-daniel-emma

I googled Josh Weed, remember him?



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moehoward Wrote:
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> I just read the northstar.org website. I'm
> speechless. I read one of the profiles.
> https://www.northstarlds.org/voh-daniel-emma
>
> I googled Josh Weed, remember him?
Around this time I was sexually assaulted by my companion several times (at the time I didn’t understand that this is what was happening). I didn’t resist his assaults. My body froze and even experienced arousal. My brain, though, was screaming that what was happening was wrong and I didn’t want it. I desperately wanted to stop it but couldn’t seem to be able to. Years later, with a lot of therapy, I learned that mine was not an abnormal reaction to being sexually assaulted.

Wow Daniel's mission story is bad.

He has a beautiful family... but I feel sorry for him and his wife. He prefers to be with men, and she settled for a man who will never be attracted to her the way a person should be attracted to their spouse.

I think marriage is difficult enough (for most people) when the spouses are attracted to each other.

They do have beautiful children, though.

I feel sorry for both of them and their children. The wife seems clueless, though being raised in the LDS church can shelter a person into cluelessness.

I wouldn't give their marriage five years, but what do I know?

I learned about North Star when I first heard about Jayce Cox's story, going through conversion therapy at BYU. In those days, it was the Evergreen program. It was just horrifying to read about.

Tell me more about the cuddle parties.

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Where is the source for the cuddle parties?

AlmostGoneObe Wrote:
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> Where is the source for the cuddle parties?


here it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLEuAYnzd0M

I was in a ward with one of the group's leaders before North Star existed. I was wrestling with my homosexuality, and he was peddling the "same-sex attraction" nonsense.

I think he's a bright but misguided individual who believes the garbage he hypes. Their argument is "all nurture, no nature": if gay men only had the right father figures growing up and had participated in the right experiences with other boys - involvement in sports and homosocial rites of passage that straight boys experienced - they would have turned out straight.

One time when he was visiting my apartment, he brought up the idea that as gay men we had lacked a physical relationship with our fathers, and so the therapy that he was doing (maybe Evergreen?) included non-sexual touching.

I remember the two of us sitting on the couch together and him inviting me to try it out by laying my head on his lap. I kind of remember us both getting shirtless first, though I can't be sure. I remember him urging me to lay my head against his stomach as he put his hand on my arm or chest.

We were like that for maybe 10-15 minutes. We didn't go any further. There was just talking, no kissing or full-on cuddling. But I'm reasonably sure I was aroused. I don't remember if he was.

It wouldn't surprise me if this was common in the group.

Typical religious guy thing to blame homosexuality on having a weak or non-existent father, an over-bearing mother, too many sisters, too few sisters, an impoverished childhood, a childhood with too many privileges that spoil the kid,... Etc., etc. I am ashamed that, in my teen years, I believed a lot of this. Church leaders were my heroes. Now they're just self-important attorneys and businessmen who have no business sitting in their posh chairs on high and judging the world, using what they think is knowledge and authority given them by Mormon Jebus. I don't listen to them. In fact, I can no longer bear their photographic images, because I have finally learnt who these men really are.