It’s been 8 years since myself, DH & our 4 children left. I used to be a regular poster but with recovery I have needed the forum less & less. I’ve been wondering what TSCC is currently like? Is the mass exodus still occurring? Any big changes we may have missed in the last couple of years?

My experience from England yes, but maybe slowing or coming to the end.

All the youth in my stake I knew when I was in the youth programme 15 years ago are out pretty much. I can count on one hand the ones still active.

Very roughly anyone under 40 is either gone or semi active/culturally Mormon.

Handful of diehards remain but the congregations are aging and the senior management of ward and stake are getting older.

Not enough left to leave in droves.

They're trickling out.

What are the conservative and liberal estimates with regard to the percentage of the 16 million 'mormons' who attend 75% of scheduled snackerment meetings?

In the UK there's at least an 80% inactivity rate. Id suggest its possible an even higher % now.

Worldwide activity rate ~27%

https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=7206285C99C2C561!9304&ithint=file%2cxlsx&authkey=!AG5FQtRwVAda040

Wow. Nothing to write home about then.

Talk about busy work. Sending out the mishies to "convert" the world and yet the newbies aren't active, or not for long. That's about what I observed during my brief stint with the Mormons. One big reason, I believe, is because it's bait-and-switch. I learned about that type of con in high school law class. Too bad I didn't spot it when I first met the missionaries. They have to duck and dive and avoid and lie to get people into the font and then delay rolling back the curtain for as long as possible afterwards or else new members quickly flee.

It's a stupid way to run a church.

However, maybe their billions convinces them otherwise. For now. But days of reckoning eventually arrive. The one for LDS Inc. would be a fascinating one.

With covid, it's kind of hard to tell. New stakes are still being created, FWIW.

About 2 years from now we should have a better idea. My gut feeling is yes, still leaving in droves. Actually, wouldn't sheep leave in flocks? As in "I'm getting the flock outta here."

I'll see myself out.

Lol! That’s funny, “getting the flock outta here!”

What does FWIW stand for?

FWIW is the acronym for “five willies in willow”, referring to an old English proverb about putting too much faith in beer.

FWIW = For What It's Worth

Yeah, sometimes this what it means…

I'd bet that the "new" stakes are just consolidations from existing stakes, like the time the church announced "two new stakes" in Spain, but all they had done was consolidate three existing stakes into two, re-named them, then claimed that they were "new," pretending that it demonstrated growth. This is how the church rolls.

I think the church is going to cause a huge amount of temple burnout by building way too many temples. When that happens they are out of tricks.

    Closing out a semi-annual conference with a big whoop-de-doo about new temples is a real thrill ride for both leadersheep and the flock.

    And by now they have probably figured out that they can all get a big drug-rush with just the announcement . . .screw actually building the temple, like Russia and Budapest.

So out of 16.6 million "on the books"
maybe 4.4 million active or somewhat active (a bit over 25%)
Guessing Utah 2 million "on the books" and 1 million active
States close to Utah: forget Colorado (my state- just tiny % LDS)
Wyoming, Idaho, Nevada, Arizona - guess 500,000 active? out of 1.2 million members
Only 22 out of 50 states have 1% LDS or more "on the books".
But in some states the vast majority are inactive.
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/mormon-population-by-state.html

So the "actives" breakdown like this:
Utah and nearby states 1.5 million
Rest of world 2.9 million
The world is a gigantic place.
World population will exceed 8 billion next year in 2022.
Away from the LDS stronghold in mountain west, there's about 2,800 people for every active LDS person.
Worldwide, "the church" never really established any significant growth at all after centuries of effort.



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I noticed that California has almost 800,000 LDS members "on the books". Actives? possibly only a quarter million. . . .

The number of LDS members in California could quite possibly nosedive in future decades. Due to incompetent politicians, the state is not run by geniuses, but by bungling fools. Many people are leaving California. Many LDS members are leaving as well.

Droves are passe!

Many are leaving in Beemers & Acuras;those who can't afford leave in Toyotas, Fords, & Hyundais. Those leaving in Hondas don't wish to be ID'd.