The name Mormon being dropped. Mission ages and calling home changes. COVID handling. Reduced meeting times. Buddying up with the Pope. Any temple changes.
But I don't know. I know many Mormons and they know better than to complain about the church openly. They grow wistful of better by gone days. They love Trump and his mantra. They are older often but there are some younger ones who can remember before COVID and how the Book of Mormon was more focused and temples weren't a dime a dozen.
Many Mormons like to read Rock Waterman, Dennis Snuffer, and a lot of end of days books on Amazon.
There is no place for them in the new church of Nelson and his surgical excising of Mormon and his Jesus freakiness. They don't like being called lazy learners when he changed all the focus from what they knew and loved.
So is there anyone lurking here that can identify with what I've written? Are you here because it feels good to read dissension from people for whom the church didn't fit?
kathleen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It made the faith of my parents irrelevant, > or at least TSCC churh hoped it did.
Pop was Jewish and Mom was Catholic. I just didn’t like mormonism spouting that its bs was better. ESP in view of my sainted mother’s pure goodness and carrying her Rosary beads in her pocket the whole time she was pregnant with us. I don’t buy into any of it now, but for THEM to make HER to look superstitious in view of their magic underwear just made me mad.
No, but worth it maybe? I mean I don't believe in any of it, but let us just say for sake of discussion that there the modern day Christian view of the world is the right view and finding the creator's favorite flavor of it is the important thing to ensure your place n the after life.
OK so working from that framework now, you need to find the "right" church and we already established that there is one. Obviously you endure the boring talks, lessons, and the fact that your church has 0 programs over a church with fun music and fun community activities.
When I was going from semi-active to inactive I had some friends who went with me to a fun church (at least the service was fun, I am not sure if their teachings were toxic or not). People admitted it was a lot better. Good music, interesting sermon, fun music, but it was still apostate, it was not the truth. Drop the idea TSCC church is the only truth and what is the point?
She complains to her apostate son, me, about a non existent ministering program. She has only had one visit since the change. She has stopped complaining about not being visited/called upon.
She agrees with my observation that the church offers "nothing" for the youth. The discontinuance of scouting and limited "fun" activities are hurting the youth. No one has fond memories of memorizing scriptures/bearing of testimonies for a cheap looking statue(church PISS program).
The church awhile back went digital for lessons/scriptures. She was told to stop carrying her traditional scriptures and "get with the program." My wife and I bought her a tablet and downloaded the church apps. We practiced with her so she would not feel left out.
She misses the old days of 3 hour block meetings. The church also sponsored "ling-a-longer" food social. Families stayed another 60-90 minutes socializing after the 3 hour block.
Ministering has been a total disaster If your not one of the elite you are left behind and ignored. The power in most wards is concentrated within the elite families. When the baby boomers die off you will be left with a much smaller church with more dedicated members. Whether that's a good thing or not remains to be seen. About the only hope I see is in the developing countries.
PHIL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > When the baby boomers die off you will be left > with a much smaller church with more dedicated > members.
kathleen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > That whiskery wallpaper all down our ward's halls > and in every room was annoying. > > It always struck me as being full of bacteria.
I called it thistle board. It was like a brier patch.
I have a permanent scar from being shoved into it. A headless nail cut got my arm.
What is important to my family is winning the contest of who is the best Mormon ever. What the leaders dictate or waffle on is of no concern to them. Their eye is on the prize and that is that their Mormon peers see them as the ones having more faith and a stronger testimony than anyone ever. They are in it to win it and no dang crap from Rusty is going to get in the way!
My mother knows some of what Oaks did while Prez of the Y and endorsing the coerced Electro-shock on the scared gay kids. When I alluded to the subject once, she once she said she thought "Oaks will have a lot to answer for when he meets his maker." Never stopped her from being the front runner in the contest though. And putting it that way took her "off the hook" she thought.
And you never could tell if you were in the front or the back of the building. It was one long circular hallway with everything (chapel, gym, etc) dumped in the middle. North, south, east and west all looked alike. Same furniture, same fake plants.
I always hoped to see a compass rosette painted on the floor.
kathleen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And you never could tell if you were in the front > or the back of the building. It was one long > circular hallway with everything (chapel, gym, > etc) dumped in the middle. North, south, east and > west all looked alike. Same furniture, same fake > plants. > > I always hoped to see a compass rosette painted > on the floor.
Funny story about that.
My Grandma (never-mo) stepped out of RS and never made it back. She kept walking up and down the hallway. Naturally, my Mom wondered what was keeping her.
Turns out she couldn't figure out where she came from. She opened the wrong classroom and became embarrassed. She walked to an exit and waited for my Mom to find her.
I remember that the primary kids made a homemade sign with an arrow pointing the direction to the primary room. It only lasted one Sunday.
The following Sunday, a letter was read about church approved artwork with the reiteration that no signs were to be attached to church walls. Then they placed the sign in the hallway on an easel. That was removed because it conflicted with local fire codes; blocking the emergency exits/walkways.
Mormon chapels really suck in design and architecture.
That's why they have that secret election made sure 2nd Annointing in the temple. It not only keeps them loyal to the LDS Corp but also pampers their egos. They can do know wrong in their minds, save leave the church.
The name Mormon being dropped. Mission ages and calling home changes. COVID handling. Reduced meeting times. Buddying up with the Pope. Any temple changes. Ministering change from Home Teaching