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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: October 18, 2021 02:08PM

Does anybody else see the manifestations of insecurity and feat that I see when attending Mormon sacrament meetings.
I try not to attend whenever possible but as I have said before my housing arrangements mandate occasional attendance.
What I see demonstrated among the attendees is fear --apprehension-- doubt-- and anxiety.
to will be happy when I can arrange not to participate further.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/18/2021 02:09PM by thedesertrat1.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: October 18, 2021 02:11PM

We are in a pandemic where many Mormons aren't following their prophet.

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Posted by: moehoward ( )
Date: October 18, 2021 02:17PM

"my housing arrangements mandate occasional attendance."

Is that even legal?

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: October 18, 2021 02:17PM

It is if you are polygamist. Cohabitation isn't against the law.

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Posted by: cl2notloggedin ( )
Date: October 18, 2021 02:21PM


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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: October 18, 2021 02:30PM

It is a question of living with a TBM daughter and her family

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: October 18, 2021 02:38PM

So does she know you don't believe and insists you go?

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: October 18, 2021 06:26PM

Mormons aren't normal people.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: October 18, 2021 06:34PM

What's normal?

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Posted by: ~ufotofu~ ( )
Date: October 19, 2021 01:33AM

If your have to ask, you've been LDS too long, or you aren't far enough out yet. Keep going!

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Posted by: cl2notloggedin ( )
Date: October 19, 2021 07:21AM

I get him saying "What is normal?" Everyone is different, so really, what is normal? I know I'm not normal. My boyfriend would even tell you that who I dated at 20 as an extreme TBM and reconnected 27 years later and have been together almost 17 years. He told me I'm not like any female he has ever known. I'm completely different than my two sisters. My best friends are two gay men (ex's of my "husband's) and two female TBMs who I still get along with. I am antisocial and I don't consider many people my good friends, although I get stopped in public all the time and people tell me their life stories and it isn't like I want to stand there and talk. My ex and my boyfriend couldn't find me one evening and my kids told them, "she ran into someone who is telling her their life story."

Does that make me normal? I'm married to someone gay (separated 25 years). That right there makes me abnormal. I'm considering violence against him right now (I'm kidding--he's driving me nuts right now, but if I was going to do anything violent towards him, I would have long ago. I'm not a violent person.)

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: October 19, 2021 12:14PM

cl2notloggedin Wrote:
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> I get him saying "What is normal?" Everyone is
> different, so really, what is normal? I know I'm
> not normal. My boyfriend would even tell you that
> who I dated at 20 as an extreme TBM and
> reconnected 27 years later and have been together
> almost 17 years. He told me I'm not like any
> female he has ever known. I'm completely
> different than my two sisters. My best friends
> are two gay men (ex's of my "husband's) and two
> female TBMs who I still get along with. I am
> antisocial and I don't consider many people my
> good friends, although I get stopped in public all
> the time and people tell me their life stories and
> it isn't like I want to stand there and talk. My
> ex and my boyfriend couldn't find me one evening
> and my kids told them, "she ran into someone who
> is telling her their life story."
>
> Does that make me normal? I'm married to someone
> gay (separated 25 years). That right there makes
> me abnormal. I'm considering violence against him
> right now (I'm kidding--he's driving me nuts right
> now, but if I was going to do anything violent
> towards him, I would have long ago. I'm not a
> violent person.)
You are probably one of the most normal people who post here
YOU HIDE NOTHING

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Posted by: Nightingale ( )
Date: October 20, 2021 02:54PM

"YOU HIDE NOTHING"

Um, how would we know if cl2 was hiding something?

We wouldn't be able to tell because, by definition, it would be hidden!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/20/2021 02:55PM by Nightingale.

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Posted by: smirkorama ( )
Date: October 20, 2021 03:24PM


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Posted by: MexMom ( )
Date: October 18, 2021 06:07PM

Yes I remember all the insecurity and BS. I haven't attended for over 20 years. I am sorry you have to deal with that.

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Posted by: cl2notloggedin ( )
Date: October 19, 2021 07:24AM

I don't have much insecurity about anything anymore. I had a lot of insecurity going to the LDS church. I NEVER fit in.

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Posted by: messygoop ( )
Date: October 19, 2021 12:22PM

The best part is feeling no shame or guilt about being myself.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: October 19, 2021 01:07PM

You are in a bad situation.

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Posted by: ~ufotofu~ ( )
Date: October 20, 2021 02:32PM

Insecurity is Big Business

Security takes a lot of energy sometimes

Think churches, insurance companies, alarms, weapons of protection, lawyers, savings, gated communities, covid precautions, plastic surgery, diets... milions of things people do to feel-be more secure.

Of course TSCC scares the members
(They scare themselves, and one another)

It's how they get "belief", attendance, MONEY (tight thing), FEAR, hope, trust

Once a member sees how TSCC operates, they are no longer a member.

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Posted by: ~ufotofu~ ( )
Date: October 20, 2021 02:42PM

thedesertrat1 Wrote:
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>... to will be happy when I can arrange not to
> participate further.


"Arrange" by DOING. Just sayin'

Tell them you refuse To Be FORCED to do anything (against your will). Tell them, "Just as you expect me Not To FORCE You [to do anything unreasonable, uninteresting, boring, false, damaging/ uncomfortable, or against your will or religion [you have one too - a will, power, a choice, weather you want to or not]

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Posted by: ziller ( )
Date: October 20, 2021 03:04PM

these traits are common among people who do not know jesus ~



i.e. ~ mormons, atheists, the lost ~

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Posted by: Kathleen ( )
Date: October 20, 2021 03:44PM

DR#1, there’s a lot of strange insecurity and angst at our house. We don’t know why, tho. Probably due to empty nest. Lack of control. Fires. Covid.

One thing, tho—-I don’t allow opportunist to exploit that.

Just stick me near all of my boys, and I’d be OK. People at church are probably have their own secret terror over their kids being on missions.

I was the happiest girl in the world when our son beat us home from the MTC.

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