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The bond between humans and dogs predates Islam by thousands of years, but the fundies don't care.
Isn't religious extremism wonderful?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-62205744
According to the proposed legislation, pet ownership would be subject to a permit issued by a special committee. There would also be a minimum fine of around $800 (790 euros; £670) for the "import, purchase and sale, transportation and keeping" of a range of animals, including common pets such as cats, turtles and rabbits.
"Debates around this bill started more than a decade ago, when a group of Iranian MPs tried to promote a law to confiscate all dogs and give them to zoos or leave them in deserts," Dr Payam Mohebi, the president of the Iran Veterinary Association and an opponent of the bill, told the BBC.
The animals are considered impure in Islamic tradition. In the eyes of the new regime dogs also became a symbol of the "Westernisation" that it sought to curb.
"There has not been a solid regulation around owning dogs," Dr Ashkan Shemirani, a Tehran-based veterinarian, told the BBC.
"Police forces arrest people for walking their dogs or even carrying them in their cars based on their interpretation of what could be seen as symbols of Westernisation."
Dr Shemirani said the authorities even created a "prison" for the seized pets.
"We heard loads of horror stories from that place," he added.
"The animals were kept for many days in open areas without proper food or water while the dog owners were going through all kinds of legal trouble."
Isn't religious extremism wonderful?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-62205744
According to the proposed legislation, pet ownership would be subject to a permit issued by a special committee. There would also be a minimum fine of around $800 (790 euros; £670) for the "import, purchase and sale, transportation and keeping" of a range of animals, including common pets such as cats, turtles and rabbits.
"Debates around this bill started more than a decade ago, when a group of Iranian MPs tried to promote a law to confiscate all dogs and give them to zoos or leave them in deserts," Dr Payam Mohebi, the president of the Iran Veterinary Association and an opponent of the bill, told the BBC.
The animals are considered impure in Islamic tradition. In the eyes of the new regime dogs also became a symbol of the "Westernisation" that it sought to curb.
"There has not been a solid regulation around owning dogs," Dr Ashkan Shemirani, a Tehran-based veterinarian, told the BBC.
"Police forces arrest people for walking their dogs or even carrying them in their cars based on their interpretation of what could be seen as symbols of Westernisation."
Dr Shemirani said the authorities even created a "prison" for the seized pets.
"We heard loads of horror stories from that place," he added.
"The animals were kept for many days in open areas without proper food or water while the dog owners were going through all kinds of legal trouble."
Interesting. I think it should be pointed out here that, prior to the arrival of Caucasian settlers, Navajos did not keep dogs as pets, either, per information I read while in high school many years ago. And there were some reports in the past that some south Asians (not Iranians, as far as I know) view canines as a favorite delicacy.
So yes, having dogs as pets is very much a symbol of Westernesse. That said, it doesn't look like the Iranians really have alternatives to offer to those who do keep dogs (or other animals) as pets, and I certainly think that joining an exclusive religious club will not satisfy a lot of these people.
So yes, having dogs as pets is very much a symbol of Westernesse. That said, it doesn't look like the Iranians really have alternatives to offer to those who do keep dogs (or other animals) as pets, and I certainly think that joining an exclusive religious club will not satisfy a lot of these people.
Dogs are not uniquely western.
This AKC link says that Shih Tzus have been around for a 1000 years (originating in Tibet), and that dogs are known to have been bred in China as far back as 1000 BC!
https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/dog-breeds/shih-tzu-facts/
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/19/2022 01:32PM by Gordon B. Stinky.
This AKC link says that Shih Tzus have been around for a 1000 years (originating in Tibet), and that dogs are known to have been bred in China as far back as 1000 BC!
https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/dog-breeds/shih-tzu-facts/
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/19/2022 01:32PM by Gordon B. Stinky.
The pet dog is the only animal known to humans to mutually cross the species boarder with ocitocin.
https://www.science.org/content/article/how-dogs-stole-our-hearts#:~:text=Mutual%20gazing%20had%20a%20profound,female%20owners%20a%20300%25%20increase.
I don't know how a God could find this abominable. It isn't as if they are having sex.
https://www.science.org/content/article/how-dogs-stole-our-hearts#:~:text=Mutual%20gazing%20had%20a%20profound,female%20owners%20a%20300%25%20increase.
I don't know how a God could find this abominable. It isn't as if they are having sex.
praise be to allah ~
the keeping dogs is the habit of the unbeliever ~
the unbeliever will adopt them as friends ~
kiss them ~
let them lick them and their clothes ~
sleep with them and even leave them money in their wills ~
to keep a dog is to imitate an unbeliever ~
according to the prophet ~
(peace and blessings of allaah be upon him) ~
"whoever keeps a dog, his good deeds will decrease every day by a unit of measurement, unless it is a dog for farming or herding" ~
dogs are extremely unclean ~
according to the prophet ~
(peace and blessings of allaah be upon him) ~
"if a dog drinks from the vessel of any one of you, let him wash it seven times and clean it the eighth time with earth" ~
whoever keeps a dog in his house is denied the blessing of the angels presence in his house ~
according to the prophet ~
(peace and blessings of allaah be upon him) ~
"the angels do not enter a house in which there is a dog" ~
the keeping dogs is the habit of the unbeliever ~
the unbeliever will adopt them as friends ~
kiss them ~
let them lick them and their clothes ~
sleep with them and even leave them money in their wills ~
to keep a dog is to imitate an unbeliever ~
according to the prophet ~
(peace and blessings of allaah be upon him) ~
"whoever keeps a dog, his good deeds will decrease every day by a unit of measurement, unless it is a dog for farming or herding" ~
dogs are extremely unclean ~
according to the prophet ~
(peace and blessings of allaah be upon him) ~
"if a dog drinks from the vessel of any one of you, let him wash it seven times and clean it the eighth time with earth" ~
whoever keeps a dog in his house is denied the blessing of the angels presence in his house ~
according to the prophet ~
(peace and blessings of allaah be upon him) ~
"the angels do not enter a house in which there is a dog" ~
Hopefully one day, the rational Iranians will retake their country.
+1
And hopefully that happens before the American version of the Mullahs gain dominance in the United States.
Friggin barbarians. If that statement goes against some woke norm. So be it.