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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: February 23, 2023 03:29AM

Mormon Stories interviewed a lawyer over the Securities and Exchange Commission’s fine against the LDS Church and Ensign Peak. Ensign Peak to their credit informed the First Presidency that forms needed to be filed. This began when Hinkley was president and he chose to violate the law to hide the excess money the church was investing.

As the amount of money Ensign Peak was managing grew, Thomas S. Monson decided to create fake front companies and have church employees sign and file forms. As the amount of money grew more front companies were needed.

Of course in the end you have whistle blowers and with one of the biggest portfolios in the county it becomes impossible to hide. The buck stops with the church president. He gives the orders. The bottom line is the president of the church is responsible for deceiving the church membership and the US Government. He’s responsible for making church employees commit fraud by signing fake forms for fake companies. Also what kind of oversight is over the funds at Ensign Peak? It’s hard to have a proper accounting of money that you are trying to hide.

The bottom line is Russell M Nelson and the previous two church presidents were committing fraud against both the US Government and the church membership. The whole deception was so members would continue to pay tithing.

$5 million is pretty light for the crime but now church leaders are going to be asking church members if they pay a full tithe and are they honest in their personal affairs in temple recommend interviews. Both leaders and members might have some problems with this.

Three church presidents violated the trust of the membership. Some of these people sacrificed big time to pay that tithing. This very well could be the biggest disaster for the church in a long time. I guess we will see how brainwashed the membership really are.

Well Russ might dodge jail time but having this explode on his watch and the repercussions will be additional punishment. When I was a financial clerk I heard lectures over and over about sacred funds. As a bishopric we were expected to be honest with the members and we were. Too bad the First Presidency wasn’t as honest as they expected their clerks and bishops to be.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: February 23, 2023 05:02AM

Maybe the "Do you strive to be honest" change to the TR interview was for the benefit of the lackeys forced to break laws to keep their jobs?

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: February 23, 2023 05:32AM

The "Do you strive to be honest" is a question for the little people of the church (the poor and the middle class.) The rich understand that the rules are different for them.

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Posted by: messygoop ( )
Date: February 23, 2023 10:49AM

Yes, he should go directly to jail, do not pass go and do not collect $200...

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Posted by: dwindler ( )
Date: February 23, 2023 11:23AM

If they are not going to be sent to jail,then at least,
EXCOMMUNICATE THE SHIT OUT OF THEM !!

Because they really are unworthy to serve in their current positions

Wouldn't be funny if they voluntarily resigned from their positions?

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Posted by: onthedownlow ( )
Date: February 23, 2023 11:34AM

I can hear the theme song playing now..."Bad boys bad boys, watcha gonna do watcha gonna do when they come for you" (Cop cuffs Oaks slams him in the back seat of the squad car by the back of his neck).

You know, this begs the question of the lightening bolt that strikes down the Prophet if he attempts to lead the church astray, no?

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: February 23, 2023 11:35AM

Yeah, he can be sent to the same wing as all the bank presidents who went to,prison for the world financial meltdown in 2008.

Russ go to prison?

You funny boy.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: February 23, 2023 12:06PM

Brother Of Jerry Wrote:
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> Yeah, he can be sent to the same wing as all the
> bank presidents who went to,prison for the world
> financial meltdown in 2008.

Yep.

Jail is for little people, like the foot soldiers in an attempted coup. The leaders might get a slap on the wrist, but no leader wears orange.

And the vast majority of Mormons won’t care.

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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: February 23, 2023 06:35PM

At this point all the members could leave and the church would still exist living off of its earned income. The church really has reached the point of where it's too big to fail. It's all ran by one guy and there are 14 other guys in line to run it. Everyone else pretty much doesn't matter.

It's really that stupid. The meetinghouses, the missions, the temples are just filler. All that stuff can be kicked to the curb and written off but the Q15 love having their asses kissed. Investments don't tell you how special you are.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: February 23, 2023 06:48PM

They could sell off chapels and Stake Centers, keep the temples, and change their name to The Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter-day Internet.

The natural progression would be to open the World Famous Eden Land Resort and Theme Park in Adam-ondi-Ahman, on the 3,000 acres they own there; they'd charge more than Disneyland, but you'd get a discount if you were taking the lessons.

All the cute guys and gals would be sent to that mission, where they'd wear signs outside the entrance: "Sign up for the lessons and get 50% off!"

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: February 23, 2023 09:15PM

Raising the question, “off what?”

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Posted by: Boyd KKK ( )
Date: February 23, 2023 05:45PM

Conspiracy to commit various crimes is a criminal act by itself.

Prosecution would be in order for you or me but somehow these thieves and liars get off with a paltry fine.

Leona Helmsly went to prison for a few years and her problem was listening to her lawyers & tax people. I involved a lot less money than MoronicPriesthood,inc.

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Posted by: Heartless ( )
Date: February 23, 2023 06:18PM

Rusty will dodge the bullet. He'll plead he was just relying on legal advice.

However, no one is looking at former presiding bishop and current apostle, Gary Stephens.

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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: February 23, 2023 06:29PM

The Hinckster was playing the cards close to the vest with Ensign Peak. The Presiding Bishopric might not have even been in on it. I think this was a pet project of Hinckley's that Monson and Nelson ended up inheriting and of course it blew up on Nelson's watch. We do know for sure the prophet knows about it.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: February 23, 2023 06:55PM

somehow the concept of fiduciary seems to have escaped them, God / HF / Elohim (if 'he' exists) won't validate their parking on fraud, at least that's what I think...

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: February 23, 2023 07:48PM

NOT ALL TRUTH IS USEFUL



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/23/2023 07:50PM by GNPE.

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Posted by: jeffs ( )
Date: February 24, 2023 04:28PM

He can share a cell with warren jeffs

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Posted by: ° ( )
Date: March 02, 2023 03:00PM

jeffs Wrote:
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> He can share a cell with warren jeffs


Sharing a cell in their cell.

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Posted by: ° ( )
Date: March 01, 2023 11:21PM

ALL Mormon profits belong there

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Posted by: schrodingerscat ( )
Date: March 02, 2023 03:10PM

There is no ‘should’, there is only did he commit a serious crime punishable by jail time or not?

Deliberately committing Fraud, to the tune of billions of dollars, seems like it would deserve at least as much jail time as Bernie Madeoff.

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