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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: November 03, 2024 09:19AM

How many cult crazies have attempted to create their own version of "perfection?"

Funny thing though.

It never seems to work.

Ex-mishies, take note of the slide presentation.

Sounds just like Mormonism or any other closed, insular cult group.


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Malcolm and Simone Collins with their children, Octavian George, Torsten Savage and Titan Invictus, in Eagleville, Pennsylvania.

With their own YouTube channel, online education platform and foundation, the couple are among the most high-profile and outspoken proponents of the pronatalist cause, which is centered on the belief that the developed world is facing a demographic collapse and that birthrates must rise to stave off disaster.

The couple, who have four children, were approached last year by an individual posing as a wealthy donor willing to finance their work. In response to his request, they created a 15-page slide deck entitled The Next Empire: Leveraging a Changing World to Save Civilization. It contained ideas that seem plucked out of a dystopian science fiction movie. According to their presentation, the city-state they envisaged would become a magnet for “no-holds-barred” medical research, which in turn would open the door to the “mass production of genetically selected humans”.

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Malcolm said he and his wife are working to create a network of other pronatalist families, with whom their children can go to summer camp, grow up alongside “knowing this isn’t weird, what we’re doing” and, ultimately, marry. But this goes beyond the average desire to find family friends with shared values and be part of a community. “What I’m really trying to do is ensure that my kids have an isolated and differential breeding network,” he said.



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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: November 03, 2024 09:42AM

I'm a product of selective breeding, that's why I'm perfect, ready for the SA & sure to reside in the CK after I shed this mortal coil!!!


Or, maybe not...

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: November 03, 2024 10:54AM

Why do people like these yahoos and Elon Musk feel the need to inflict ridiculous names on their kids?

That aside, their goal sounds pretty much identical to the FLDS, minus the polygamy.

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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: November 03, 2024 11:02AM

Nothing new. Certain rich people have had that dream for a long time. It became especially prominent in the 20th Century.

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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: November 03, 2024 11:10AM

Brigham Young wanted his own country with its own language. He was highly motivated. He wanted all the women popping out babies and missionaries bringing new converts in to grow the population so large nobody could break them up and scatter them.

It worked to a certain degree. They were able to hold the US Army back a winter and intimidate it. The US Marshall’s had the church on the ropes during the polygamy arrests by there was enough leadership structure to offer a manifesto.

Now the church has enough money it can survive in one form or another.

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Posted by: blindguy ( )
Date: November 03, 2024 04:39PM

The couple and the donor sound like they are both bigots and supporters of eugenics. Yuck!

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: November 03, 2024 08:50PM

When I read articles like this, I can't stop laughing.

Conspiracy theorists, crazy cultists, whackjob prophets and preachers, nowadays though are so crazy you don't know if they are just acting crazy or if they are really crazy...



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Posted by: blindguy ( )
Date: November 04, 2024 02:11AM

anybody Wrote:
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> When I read articles like this, I can't stop
> laughing.
>
> Conspiracy theorists, crazy cultists, whackjob
> prophets and preachers, nowadays though are so
> crazy you don't know if they are just acting crazy
> or if they are really crazy...

Unless you spy a sign about this being a movie set or saying something else about filming, you should always take these people at their word. While I agree with poster Squirrely that they are all (or nearly all) narsicists, the idea that people do not believe what they say they believe should not be questioned unless you personally have evidence proving that they don't. And if you do have such evidence, it is better that the proper authorities be notified--they are much better equipped to handle trained gangs than us private citizens are.

Of course, sometimes even the proper authorities get it wrong. One of the things my late mother believed (and I agreed with her on this) was that David Koresh (the guy at the heart of the Waco, Texas, disaster back in 1996), despite all of the evidence, really believed he was the son of God. If you read some of the stories of the agents sent out to investigate and arrest him (some have published articles and books on the topic), many believed that Mr. Koresh was just playing a game and that he would give himself up once he realized that the law was closing in. They never considered that he just might fight it out with them, using his followers (who very much believed in his thories) as sitting ducks once the shooting got started.

Or you can look at the case of Jim Jones. When the law got onto him after he killed the U.S. Congressman (Leo Ryan) sent to investigate his activities, he engaged in mass murder/suicide with his membership. If memory serves, only 89 of the over 1000 cult members he had actually escaped the bitter end.

This is also why, when I look at the story of Joseph Smith (as well as other religious founders of his time), I always have to question the motive that he knew all along that what he was doing in starting Mormonism was a hoax. Unless some evidence appears showing otherwise, I am convinced that Mr. Smith really believed at the time of his death in the stories about Jesus visiting the Americas, the Lamanites and Nephites, his philosophy of polygamy, and all of the rest of it. And I suspect that even today, despite all of the mounting evidence that JS was wrong on nearly everything he said, many Mormons and their leaders still believe everything he said about himself and the cult/religion he started.

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Posted by: squirrely ( )
Date: November 03, 2024 10:03PM

Unhinged narcissism

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