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Posted by: Texian ( )
Date: December 27, 2024 02:43PM

A convert gets baptized.
There next step is to go to the stake center and have them create a family genealogy account. They are to try and fond an ancestor so they can take that name to the temple.
They go to the temple and the baptism.
Then they are given the A. Priesthood if they are a man.
They are then invited on temple trips to preform baptisms with the youth.
I was told this is to help them stay on the covenant path. To increase there desire to attend church and to feel the spirit more fully.
My problem here I see they tell us about their baptisms. I see them at church before their baptisms and then very seldom see any of them staying.
I feel that this is very deceptive for new members. Of course going to the temple will be a different experience. T me this does get to the heart of the matter which is converting them at a deep spiritual level with gospel truths, gospel history, etc. like they did 60 years ago. This sounds like a short cut method to get them in the door. And then we know what happens. Very little!!!!Gone are the days of new converts reading Jesus the Christ, The BoM, A Marvelous work and a wonder. Members went through that process stayed. And I can not remember the last time I saw a real complete family join the Church!!!!

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: December 27, 2024 03:05PM

I thought the Aaronic Priesthood ordination followed almost immediately after baptism for an adult male.

I don't know about the creation of a family genealogy account, but I have heard reports of new converts doing baptisms for the dead shortly after their own baptism. I assume that is to get them used to going to the temple, so when they are members for a year, they can go get their endowments.

I wonder what ever became of Jesus the Christ, and A Marvelous Work and a Wonder. Those books used to be considered "almost scripture", right down to being published in the same leather binding and gilt-edged thin paper. I never hear about them anymore.

That said, I don't think those books had much to do with whole families converting to the church in the 1960s and 1970s. Nor is the lack of those books now the reason whole families now rarely convert, especially in the US. In the 1970s, lots or parents were alarmed by changes in the youth culture, and some of them turned to Mormonism as a safe place to raise families. The Osmond Effect.

Times have changed. Mormonism is no longer seen as a potential solution to some perceived decline of society, They may still be seen that way in Africa, but the US has gotten over that phase.

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: December 27, 2024 04:15PM

"In the 1970s, lots or parents were alarmed by changes in the youth culture, and some of them turned to Mormonism as a safe place to raise families. The Osmond Effect."

That explains some things. My mom was from an ultraconservative family, the kind with NRA stickers on their cars. She converted and moved us to Utah. Mom also did volunteer work for the John Birch Society with us kids in tow. You don't get much more Mormon than that.

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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: December 27, 2024 04:31PM

I never noticed them rushing new converts off to the genealogy libraries and to perform temple baptisms.

I think they see that many new converts drift away just as fast as they join, so they need to engage them more.

It feels even more cultish to do that.

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