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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: August 15, 2025 10:10PM

"President Nelson has spoken against racism multiple times throughout his five-year tenure as president of the Church."

60 years ago, that would have gotten him excommunicated.

The NAACP and TSCC are strange bedfellows. Do they know of Brigham Young's legendary racism?

Although both organizations stick to self-serving myths instead of accepting harsher realities such as ..... Joseph Smith having cobbled together LDS scriptures Tolkien-style.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 08/15/2025 11:14PM by Maude.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: August 16, 2025 08:25PM

1978 wasn't that long ago.



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Posted by: ... ( )
Date: August 18, 2025 05:19AM

Did Nelson Mandela ever condemn necklacing?

https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/politics/winnie-mandela-endorsed-the-most-cruel-form-of-torture-300071

"It is hard to think of a method of torture and killing more cruel than necklacing, which involve a tyre being placed around the neck of a victim and then set alight; the tyre stayed around the victim’s neck until he or she died.

"It was a method of murder used only by opponents of the South African government in the 1980s; for all its cruelty the apartheid regime never resorted to burning people alive.

"The victims of necklacing were mostly — if not invariably — black... Three quarters of those died in 1986 — the year the practice was supported in public by Winnie Mandela."

Her infamous words stated in public in front of a mass of adoring youth:-“Together, hand-in-hand with our sticks of matches, with our necklaces, we shall liberate this country."

Nelson Mandela obituary (Guardian newspaper, UK) :

“ . . . It has been long assumed that [Nelson] Mandela, in prison, would have strongly condemned necklacing. Indeed, it was reported, and widely believed, that after Winnie had raised the issue – in 1986, when she declared that South Africans would liberate themselves with matchboxes and tyres – her husband had summoned her to Pollsmoor prison, in Cape Town and reprimanded her for it. It has emerged, however, from a document that circulated among journalists and academics in South Africa, and which finally dribbled into print in 2005, that Mandela condoned his wife's statement. The document, the minutes of a meeting between Mandela, Winnie and Ayob inside Pollsmoor prison, said: "NM approved of WM's necklace speech. He said that it was a good thing as there has not been one black person who has attacked WM." ……”

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