That's what I'm getting from reading this forum, especially for those who were sincerely trying to "live the gospel." Between the little factory baloney and not being able to look at one's spouse without the Gs, it seems to me that the morg is trying to control members' sexuality and subvert normal healthy relations with one's DW/DH. And apparently contraception is not ok?

Good thing I got out young. The whole thing is sick. No wonder the women take so much Prozac. How do guys cope?

The whole reason is that if you can control something so innate and primal as a person's sexuality, you pretty much have complete control over them.

How do mormon men cope? How do men traditionally cope when they are repressing their sexuality? It comes out, frequently in ugly ways....

"Help! Help! I'm being (sexually) repressed!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOOTKA0aGI0

If a mormon man wants to see a woman in sexy underwear, he goes to stripclubs or looks at porn, cause he's never going to see it for real in his own bedroom.

Misfit Wrote:
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> If a mormon man wants to see a woman in sexy
> underwear, he goes to stripclubs or looks at porn,
> cause he's never going to see it for real in his
> own bedroom.

Or he does what my husband's co-worker does at work, go to the Victoria's Secret website and keep it in a small window in the bottom corner of his screen.

He developed what we laughingly called the 'porn lean' from hunching over to keep people walking behind him from seeing.

what you actually do with your sexuality, as long as you feel so guilty and consumed over it you will be afraid to question your beliefs. Mormon society's expectations go against something so primal it sets the society up for failure. If you go around feeling like a failure in your own society then you will think it's because there is something wrong with YOU and not the system. Just keep paying your tithing; Satan's temptations are causing you to doubt, but God will deliver you from sin and fix it all for you if you just believe without question.



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Maybe I've been away from church too long. But then again can one ever be away from church too long?

What is all this talk about a "little factory"? What the hell is it, where did it come from, etc?

The "little factory" is a coined phrase from the beloved hopefully someday profit boyd kkk packer. It comes from a talk that he gave in 1976 "To Young Men Only" here is the link...http://www.lds-mormon.com/only.shtml. A good and quick analysis can be found here http://www.i4m.com/think/sexuality/little_factory.htm.



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Interesting. I never heard that before. 1976 and everyone is still talking about it. He must of given the same talk recently for everyone to be up on this. I do remember bits and piece that they would use like "your mind is a stage". But never heard of testicles being called a "little factory".

Kind of strange how they would tell you that wet dreams are okay but jacking off is forbidden. Or that the "little factory" runs and you don't even know it, unless you go there. I got to call BS on that. Like another poster on another thread said, that when he was a teenager, a slight breeze would set him off.

you have indeed been away from Mormonism a long time. Congratulations to you! :)

No kidding. I've been away over 30 yrs and I remember it. Sick.

hearing about the little factory before coming here. Lucky me. It was crazy when I left and it's just gotten crazier since.

What I dont get is why so much is done to repress sexualaty then as soon as your married your supposed to pop out kids like theres no tomorow.

Men have hormones bilding up and women are almost afraid of it isnt that a breeding ground for abusive relationships? They say now that domestic violence is only a little under the national avrage but the way TBMs act maybe its actauly higher just more women keep quiet about it.

It was here at exmo that I first heard about the little factory speech. My ex was in the priesthood meeting where this speech was first given.

That is one of the most juvenile speeches I have ever heard. I thought it was a joke the first time I read it here at exmo.

"To the One" which was referenced here a few weeks ago was another classic--but the little factory speech takes the cake.

My parents convinced my young mind that all sex is dirty, and that still is in the back of my mind today............................................................................................................................................................AND I LOVE THEM FOR IT!!!!!

I had a little talk w/ my son's Bish last night. This was in response to my son's interview w/ him. I posted this story on a previous "Little Factory" thread that I authored. Bish said that all he did was go over what it said in the "For the Strength of Youth" pamphlet, where it says "Don't arouse those emotions in yourself". So I went home and read the whole thing. Here it is:
"Physical intimacy between husband and wife is beautiful and sacred. It is ordained of God for the creation of children and for the expression of love between husband and wife. God has commanded that sexual intimacy be reserved for marriage.

When you obey God’s commandment to be sexually pure, you prepare yourself to make and keep sacred covenants in the temple. You prepare yourself to build a strong marriage and to bring children into the world as part of a loving family. You protect yourself from the emotional damage that always comes from sharing physical intimacies with someone outside of marriage.

Do not have any sexual relations before marriage, and be completely faithful to your spouse after marriage. Satan may tempt you to rationalize that sexual intimacy before marriage is acceptable when two people are in love. That is not true. In God’s sight, sexual sins are extremely serious because they defile the power God has given us to create life. The prophet Alma taught that sexual sins are more serious than any other sins except murder or denying the Holy Ghost (see Alma 39:5).

Before marriage, do not do anything to arouse the powerful emotions that must be expressed only in marriage. Do not participate in passionate kissing, lie on top of another person, or touch the private, sacred parts of another person’s body, with or without clothing. Do not allow anyone to do that with you. Do not arouse those emotions in your own body.

In cultures where dating or courting is acceptable, always treat your date with respect, never as an object to be used for your lustful desires. Stay in areas of safety where you can easily control your physical feelings. Do not participate in talk or activities that arouse sexual feelings.

Homosexual activity is a serious sin. If you find yourself struggling with same-gender attraction, seek counsel from your parents and bishop. They will help you.

Victims of rape, incest, or other sexual abuse are not guilty of sin. If you have been a victim of any of these crimes, know that you are innocent and that God loves you. Seek your bishop’s counsel immediately so he can help guide you through the process of emotional healing.

If you are tempted to commit sexual transgressions, seek help from your parents, your bishop, and friends you can trust. Pray to the Lord, who will help you resist temptation and overcome inappropriate thoughts and feelings.

If you have committed sexual transgressions, begin the process of repentance now so you can find inner peace and have the full companionship of the Spirit. Seek the Lord’s forgiveness. Talk with your bishop. He will help you obtain the forgiveness available to those who truly repent."

So there you have it. Feel free to comment.

"Victims of rape, incest, or other sexual abuse are not guilty of sin. If you have been a victim of any of these crimes, know that you are innocent and that God loves you. Seek your bishop’s counsel immediately so he can help guide you through the process of emotional healing."

How many years did it take them to fix that bit?

"Before marriage, do not do anything to arouse the powerful emotions that must be expressed only in marriage."

What the hell is that supposed to mean? Are they saying teenagers shoudn't even look at someone that they are attracted to?

"Homosexual activity is a serious sin. If you find yourself struggling with same-gender attraction, seek counsel from your parents and bishop. They will help you."

Yeah right. Tell your Bish that you are gay, and you'll be excommunicated.